Anyone not use a thermostat?
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Anyone not use a thermostat?
I am just finishing up the port work on my intake that was originally designed not to have a thermostat installed.
What it does have is a divider in the spot where the thermostat would sit.
Any opinions pro or con to not using a thermostat in a street motor?
Sorry for no picture but my camera is at the shop.
Doug
What it does have is a divider in the spot where the thermostat would sit.
Any opinions pro or con to not using a thermostat in a street motor?
Sorry for no picture but my camera is at the shop.
Doug
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I don't use one in mine. No issues for years.
Takes a few minutes more to warm up, but once on the road it's fine. With a T-stat mine would gradually heat up on long 80 mph drives. Without one it's fine.
JIM
Takes a few minutes more to warm up, but once on the road it's fine. With a T-stat mine would gradually heat up on long 80 mph drives. Without one it's fine.
JIM
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Thanks Jim
Being as our motors are similar your reply answers my question very well.
Plan to start setting the motor up on the run stand tomorrow. To bad the board is down because the new dyno will not be installed for a couple of weeks yet.
Doug
Being as our motors are similar your reply answers my question very well.
Plan to start setting the motor up on the run stand tomorrow. To bad the board is down because the new dyno will not be installed for a couple of weeks yet.
Doug
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Some engines will experience over heating without a thermostat. The reason? The thermostat slows the water down in the system at rpm, allowing it time to cool in the radiator and time to absorb heat in the engine. One fix if your choice is to run without a thermostat is to place a piece of tin in the housing area with holes punched or drilled in it to act as a flow restrictor.
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As one method of reducing the problems caused by today's poor gas in FI engines, I changed my thermostat to a 160* version. It did help some.
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But the cooling system has to be capable of holding it that low (stop any air from bypassing of the radiator or recirculating hot air, enough air flow, proper ignition timing, radiator and cooling system in good condition, etc.).
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I've always understood that you need a thermostat as a restriction to insure good flow and cooling to the rear cylinders. Without the restriction the water short circuits the rear and they will run somewhat hotter.
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in my blower motor, it doesnt have a thermostat either, it has a thin disk with about a 5/8 hole in it to slow the water down to give it time to cool in the radiator.......
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Some engines will experience over heating without a thermostat. The reason? The thermostat slows the water down in the system at rpm, allowing it time to cool in the radiator and time to absorb heat in the engine. One fix if your choice is to run without a thermostat is to place a piece of tin in the housing area with holes punched or drilled in it to act as a flow restrictor.
Here is a picture of the base for the thermostat housing and as you can see there is no room for a restrictor.
So for a start I will try it the way Brodix designed it......... besides I have already done enough grinding on this intake to last me for a long time
Doug
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youll be fine here sureshot.....it looks like the opening is restricted to start with....we have run that same intake on the street with no problems......
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I was looking for a response from IRONCROSS. Some time ago, I stated that I didn't use a thermostat in my 1965, 327/365. He said I was to stupid to understand why one was needed, and didn't have the time to tell me.
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try it! Summer toys often get away without it.
Don't try it up north under 32F, and expect heat anytime soon A passenger will burn up your ears complaining about NO HEAT even if U R a tough guy.
Another thing, even in FL, i notice my 61 355 really sucks gas the 1st mile, like 8 mpg at 40 mph. It reaches 180 after 2 miles vs 7 miles witout a tstat. Very poor vaporization when cold; liquid gas pours into it.
try it! Summer toys often get away without it.
Don't try it up north under 32F, and expect heat anytime soon A passenger will burn up your ears complaining about NO HEAT even if U R a tough guy.
Another thing, even in FL, i notice my 61 355 really sucks gas the 1st mile, like 8 mpg at 40 mph. It reaches 180 after 2 miles vs 7 miles witout a tstat. Very poor vaporization when cold; liquid gas pours into it.