427 Block
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427 Block
Any idea of the value of a 66 427 2 bolt block is worth. Standard bore, but the deck has been milled. No crank, rods or pistons.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Melting Slicks
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Re: 427 Block (plaidside)
...yeah, i'm kinda trending with kahuner on this one and i don't have a figure for you but i'll tell you that if it's a vette block, take a deep breath before you sell it...take a look at my previous posts about my 427 being .040 over...the 427's, especially the original 4 bolt main versions are being sucked up by the racers (at least around here that's true) and what you find are usually 2 bolt 454s...speaking for myself, i may still be interested (even if it's not a vette block)...send me mail if you want
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Re: 427 Block (magicv8)
The casting number is 3869942, but I couldn't find the casting date in the normal places. After doing research, I found out it is on the side of the block.
As for the pad, as I said, it was milled.
I will check tomorrow for a cast date.
As for the pad, as I said, it was milled.
I will check tomorrow for a cast date.
Racer
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Re: 427 Block (plaidside)
The older I get, I'm getting to be such a "Doubting Thomas"...........
942 blocks, my guess, is that they were used for other things, like marine applications!
If the pad is w/o numbers, it becomes a "me too" common generic block worth $300 bucks!
942 blocks, my guess, is that they were used for other things, like marine applications!
If the pad is w/o numbers, it becomes a "me too" common generic block worth $300 bucks!
Racer
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From: toronto ont
Re: 427 Block (magicv8)
I paid dearly for a 67 435HP block that has a BLANK pad and original broach marks,the pad will be restored to #'s matching, when this 20000 mile fully documented car is done I hope to retrieve my outlay at BJ auction
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Melting Slicks
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Re: 427 Block (L71rat)
I paid dearly for a 67 435HP block that has a BLANK pad and original broach marks,the pad will be restored to #'s matching, when this 20000 mile fully documented car is done I hope to retrieve my outlay at BJ auction
[Modified by Mac, 10:30 AM 3/1/2002]
Melting Slicks
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Re: 427 Block (Mac)
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"Hmmmmm- how can a BLANK pad (original broach marks or not) be RESTORED to #'s matching?"
Matching numbers is a term coined in the last 15 years.
(Actually its meaning was changed during the past 15 years):crazy:
Most everyone knows what it means. Its the area between Origional, and NOM. :yesnod:
[Modified by 396 RAT, 12:59 AM 3/2/2002]
"Hmmmmm- how can a BLANK pad (original broach marks or not) be RESTORED to #'s matching?"
Matching numbers is a term coined in the last 15 years.
(Actually its meaning was changed during the past 15 years):crazy:
Most everyone knows what it means. Its the area between Origional, and NOM. :yesnod:
[Modified by 396 RAT, 12:59 AM 3/2/2002]
Melting Slicks
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Re: 427 Block (L71rat)
I paid dearly for a 67 435HP block that has a BLANK pad and original broach marks,the pad will be restored to #'s matching, when this 20000 mile fully documented car is done I hope to retrieve my outlay at BJ auction
Not a flame, but will the re-stamp be part of the "documentation" ?
Was the fate of its orig engine documented?
Not a flame, but will the re-stamp be part of the "documentation" ?
Was the fate of its orig engine documented?
Melting Slicks
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Re: 427 Block (redvetracr)
Why bother?
Isn't it about the same thing?
I guess its up to the individual.
"How bad do you want it"?
Spend 2k to increase your cars value
5k ,10k. ?k On a big Block car.
Maybe I am being too harsh?
I have an orig 65 289 hi-po I wish I could take a magic wand
and make the fact that Ford blew up during a "test drive" 1971,
then replaced the bare block with an in-kind part go away.
I am the cars 2nd owner, had it for 18 years now.
To me Its like a woman being pregnant. There is little in-between.
You either are, or you are not.
:yesnod:
[Modified by 396 RAT, 9:55 AM 3/2/2002]
Isn't it about the same thing?
I guess its up to the individual.
"How bad do you want it"?
Spend 2k to increase your cars value
5k ,10k. ?k On a big Block car.
Maybe I am being too harsh?
I have an orig 65 289 hi-po I wish I could take a magic wand
and make the fact that Ford blew up during a "test drive" 1971,
then replaced the bare block with an in-kind part go away.
I am the cars 2nd owner, had it for 18 years now.
To me Its like a woman being pregnant. There is little in-between.
You either are, or you are not.
:yesnod:
[Modified by 396 RAT, 9:55 AM 3/2/2002]
Melting Slicks
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Re: 427 Block (396 RAT)
I've said this before but it bears repeating-
IMHO, the 'numbers matching' phenomenon is perpetuated by money, nothing else. What started out as one of a number of ways to quantify factory correctness has become a farce. The only reason to re-stamp a block (or a frame or anything) is to deceive others and that's just wrong.
The people who react the most to 'numbers matching' are people who view Vettes as assests rather than cars. Those same people have made the hobby massively expensive, trying to buy the rarest of the rare which encourages the unscrupulous to become creative, so to speak. How many BB 67 verts are there? It depends on which day of the week you ask.
IMHO, the 'numbers matching' phenomenon is perpetuated by money, nothing else. What started out as one of a number of ways to quantify factory correctness has become a farce. The only reason to re-stamp a block (or a frame or anything) is to deceive others and that's just wrong.
The people who react the most to 'numbers matching' are people who view Vettes as assests rather than cars. Those same people have made the hobby massively expensive, trying to buy the rarest of the rare which encourages the unscrupulous to become creative, so to speak. How many BB 67 verts are there? It depends on which day of the week you ask.
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Re: 427 Block (plaidside)
I am driving what the local NCRS "pros" and I believe to be an original 427, L72 block...correct numbers, not restamped by all indications.
I love driving this car and driving it hard (not abusively...there is an obvious difference :yesnod: ) on occasion.
You know what I will do if I blow the block??? Scrap it and drop in a 454 crate, which I will then probably modify further. Over and out. :D :lol:
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I love driving this car and driving it hard (not abusively...there is an obvious difference :yesnod: ) on occasion.
You know what I will do if I blow the block??? Scrap it and drop in a 454 crate, which I will then probably modify further. Over and out. :D :lol:
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Keep on :seeya :D :lol: :flag
Racer
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From: toronto ont
Re: 427 Block (396 RAT)
I'll give you something to think about, my block has never been stamped so how can I be restamping if it was never stamped to begin with. Restamping is the job of taking old numbers off and restamping with different numbers. When I bought car from original owner he told me that it had the original motor but he wasn't aware that the motor was replaced by GM, he assumed it was repaired not replaced when he took it in back in 1968, he thought the car had original motor and had no idea what numbers matching was. One cannot say that the car has a restamped block and talking to the original owner will verify that it is in fact original, no one can dispute the car when backed up with supporting documents. The car will have a huge reserve at auction.
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Re: 427 Block (plaidside)
Your 427 block, if it is truly from a midyear corvette in the first place, is valuable. The number from the pad is nothging more than a derivitive of the original car's VIN and some codes based on how the engine was built (and when). EVERY engine builder in the country has the original stamps and can/will restamp an engine to whatever number you want. Therefore, the fact that it's decked has absolutely nothing, I mean zero to do with the value of the block (unless you were hoping that the owner of the car it originally came with is loaded and desparately searching for the orginal engine for his car).
The important thing is the date code which is cast, not stamped at the side or rear of the block. Anyone looking to make their car "numbers matching" would need to find a block that was cast within say 30 days of their car's build date. Then, they would have it decked and stamped based on their VIN, the car's options, and a date a week or so after the date that the block was cast.
Simply, it should be relatively valuable.
The important thing is the date code which is cast, not stamped at the side or rear of the block. Anyone looking to make their car "numbers matching" would need to find a block that was cast within say 30 days of their car's build date. Then, they would have it decked and stamped based on their VIN, the car's options, and a date a week or so after the date that the block was cast.
Simply, it should be relatively valuable.