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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Having a 4 speed does nothing to your ********* as far as I know, mine are the same length before the 4 speed and after.
You Guys are Great....................Made me Laugh!
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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I know I will catch hell for this, but IMHO, if a able bodied wife cant drive a stick then she has no business in a c1 or c2. Mark
I assume your comments were somewhat directed at me since I am one of 2 members that mentioned buying a Powerglide car that my wife could drive. You won’t catch hell from me because I’m not going to stoop to that level. Though IMHO, your remark shows ignorance and was completely irrelevant to the OP’s question or my reply to it.

I knew when I engaged in this discussion that I was going to come under fire from Dan Hampton and/or Tom Parsons because I clearly understand their perspective on Powerglides from previous threads. I tried to add something constructive to this thread because the OP asked for opinions on the value spread between 4 speeds and Powerglides. I do acknowledge that there is a spread, but don’t agree with the “at least $10K” difference that was quoted and gave my perspective on why I disagree.

Dan – I don’t necessarily agree with your self-fulfilling prophecy perspective, but you are entitled to your opinion. We’ve owned and enjoyed our car for about 4 years now, as we bought just as the market began to drop. Prior to that, we spent about three years and plenty of dollars traveling to look at cars all up and down the east coast – mostly leads generated from this forum, the NCRS Driveline and other websites.

The car we bought is a low-mileage, unrestored original car with less than 60K miles, original engine, transmission, rear end, rear shocks, starter, distributor, alternator, regulator, all original glass, body panels, and mostly original interior. It is not survivor, but a well-kept original car that I’m proud of, but certainly not bragging about. I don’t mind saying we paid $33,500 for the car. At the time, I think an equivalent 4-speed car would have been about $5K more.

I’ve shared before that buying a mid-year Corvette was my wife’s idea. I have been into street rods all my life, but my wife did not share my enthusiasm for them. She suggested a Vette as a way we could share a common interest in a car we both appreciated and to attend some events together. It's not a status symbol for us - it's something to take out on the weekends and beat around on the back roads in for enjoyment.

I still feel we bought the right car for what we intended to use it for. I'm certainly not trying to push Powerglides on anyone, as I understand that they have very limited appeal.

By the way, my wife never learned to drive a stick before we got married, and I never tried to teach her afterward. I really did not want her to be behind the wheel of a powerful (and expensive) rear-wheel drive car when all she has ever driven are front-wheel drive cars with automatics. I’ll bet the owner of this Cobra wishes he didn’t put his wife in the driver’s seat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTEvJ2Tl8Ss

Someone should have had sense enough to yank her *** out of the driver’s seat rather than standing there filming her near-demise.

Todd

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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TC233
Man that's quite sick?
That's because I refuse to take my meds!

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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RYanulis
You Guys are Great....................Made me Laugh!
He's new, he fell for the Tom bait.



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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Fawndeuce
He's new, he fell for the Tom bait.
I'm not, but maybe I did too...
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
30-yr old, 115lb daughter driving my no power anything, 5-spd manual tranny '61 around....no problem at all.
Yes and she appears to be about 5 foot six inches or higher. My wife is 4.99999999999999990128759653 feet .
Her leg length appears to be about the length of your daughters arm
Your daughter is a pretty girl.
So if she is 5 foot, you are not much taller

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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DZAUTO
That's because I refuse to take my meds!

Tom Parsons
Meds..you wanna talk meds, I can out do you on Meds on my worst day....which could be anyday as any med user knows
I swing between hyper schizophrenic and asleep..... seems as I get older there is no space between

Did you notice that when the golden years appear, your ********* get longer and your dong gets shorter? Its God's way of getting even, man thats cruel
PS- personally I have not experienced this yet, I just "heard about it"
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jalopy31
I assume your comments were somewhat directed at me since I am one of 2 members that mentioned buying a Powerglide car that my wife could drive. You won’t catch hell from me because I’m not going to stoop to that level. Though IMHO, your remark shows ignorance and was completely irrelevant to the OP’s question or my reply to it.

I knew when I engaged in this discussion that I was going to come under fire from Dan Hampton and/or Tom Parsons because I clearly understand their perspective on Powerglides from previous threads. I tried to add something constructive to this thread because the OP asked for opinions on the value spread between 4 speeds and Powerglides. I do acknowledge that there is a spread, but don’t agree with the “at least $10K” difference that was quoted and gave my perspective on why I disagree.

Dan – I don’t necessarily agree with your self-fulfilling prophecy perspective, but you are entitled to your opinion. We’ve owned and enjoyed our car for about 4 years now, as we bought just as the market began to drop. Prior to that, we spent about three years and plenty of dollars traveling to look at cars all up and down the east coast – mostly leads generated from this forum, the NCRS Driveline and other websites.

The car we bought is a low-mileage, unrestored original car with less than 60K miles, original engine, transmission, rear end, rear shocks, starter, distributor, alternator, regulator, all original glass, body panels, and mostly original interior. It is not survivor, but a well-kept original car that I’m proud of, but certainly not bragging about. I don’t mind saying we paid $33,500 for the car. At the time, I think an equivalent 4-speed car would have been about $5K more.

I’ve shared before that buying a mid-year Corvette was my wife’s idea. I have been into street rods all my life, but my wife did not share my enthusiasm for them. She suggested a Vette as a way we could share a common interest in a car we both appreciated and to attend some events together. It's not a status symbol for us - it's something to take out on the weekends and beat around on the back roads in for enjoyment.

I still feel we bought the right car for what we intended to use it for. I'm certainly not trying to push Powerglides on anyone, as I understand that they have very limited appeal.

By the way, my wife never learned to drive a stick before we got married, and I never tried to teach her afterward. I really did not want her to be behind the wheel of a powerful (and expensive) rear-wheel drive car when all she has ever driven are front-wheel drive cars with automatics. I’ll bet the owner of this Cobra wishes he didn’t put his wife in the driver’s seat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTEvJ2Tl8Ss

Someone should have had sense enough to yank her *** out of the driver’s seat rather than standing there filming her near-demise.

Todd
Todd:

You have to understand that Tom and I are old school, performance oriented types; thus, the obsession with manual tranmissions. Enjoy your car. If it works for you that is all that counts. Good luck.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TC233
A Corvette is a car, a nice one, agreed, but everyone has their own opinion and needs. For instance, you would not catch me dead in a Red Car, whether a Vette or any car. I personally hate red. I am in the minority but nevertheless when I buy a car, I would never buy red.
Wow. Someone else that hates red as much as I do. Never owned one, never will.

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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DZAUTO
EARLY Powerglide cars could be push started, AFTER getting them up to about 30-35mph, because they had a REAR pump (the rear pump was turned by the tailshaft, thus supplying pressure to the tranny). About 65-66-67(???) the rear pump in a PG tranny was eliminated and they could no longer be push started.

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Not in '65 or '66. May have been eliminated in '67, couldn't say for sure but I'm thinking that PG's in '67 still had a rear pump, eliminated in the '68 thru '73 models.

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Wow. Someone else that hates red as much as I do. Never owned one, never will.

Jim
And I absolutely agree!
I just CANNOT understand why ANYONE would want to drive an antique technology, red, manual tranny car. That is just completely beyond my capability of comprehension!







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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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I would be just as happy with a stick in my 63 SWC as I am with the overdrive 4 speed auto thats in it now. Either way as long as it has at least 4 speeds and an overdrive it would work fine for me. By the way Tom I love your Red car, wish it was mine.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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A 3 or 4 speed auto trans will beat an equal motor stick shift car every time in the 1/4 mile.

Autos may be for girlie men, but sticks are for race losers.

FWIW.

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I LOVE red and your Vette Tom!


Joanne loved her 4spd '69 Z28 in '73 before I repaired (RR quarter) and repainted it.




Didn't slow her down after I put a few overlays of pearl on the Camaro late '73.(Even let me drive it once in awhile.)




A few years later , she graduated to a 4 speed, '67 black pearl Coupe I also painted for her.




BUT, she also loved a nice '67 Conv/HT 300, Auto, AC (and more) that we purchased in '76 and she drove it everywhere with much enjoyment. And, no problem selling them (had another nice auto '67 Coupe in '80).There is something for everyone and it is still a Corvette.

Nowadays, she doesn't hesitate to hop in one of my old '80 "Beater" 4WD Toyota Pickups (4spd, no PS) and head to the mountains a few miles up the road from home to train our retrievers.

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Originally Posted by AZDoug
A 3 or 4 speed auto trans will beat an equal motor stick shift car every time in the 1/4 mile.

Autos may be for girlie men, but sticks are for race losers.

FWIW.

Doug
The only thing more embarrassing would be losing in a RED car with stick. NOBODY can shift faster than an auto.

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Originally Posted by Jalopy31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTEvJ2Tl8Ss

Someone should have had sense enough to yank her *** out of the driver’s seat rather than standing there filming her near-demise.
Cool Video Todd!
Seriously though, anyone could see that was going to be a disaster even before she got out of the parking lot.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jalopy31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTEvJ2Tl8Ss

Someone should have had sense enough to yank her *** out of the driver’s seat rather than standing there filming her near-demise.

Todd
That one was beaten to death on the Cobra forums years ago. Drunk chick + manual transmission she'd never driven before + greater HP to weight ratio than 99% of the cars ever built + wet tires = well, watch the video. Plus it was RED. Sorry Tom, I couldn't resist.

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My bike is a single speed automatic. It is basicly a right angle drive with an internal hydraulic clutch which lets you have a neutral when you start it. The torque converter is available in various stall speeds. These bikes have a high gear only because the horsepower to weight ratio still lets you burn the tire up from a standing start with no need for a low gear. It is geared to top out at just under 150 and it runs ten second quarters. When I ride this bike hard it sounds like a rail job with its single speed.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I'm 5'7"
I dated a girl once that was that short. She had a flat spot on top of her head so I could sit my beer there while she was s---, well, you know.

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Kinda like Sonny and Cher's daughter, er son, er dau---------------------------oh, whatever.

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