There's something else AO Smith could not do in 67. And it throws all there claims out the window.

 

Hmmm, I'll take a wild guess - AOS did not do big block hoods, so no AOS bodies got 427s?

 

Winner winner chicken dinner

So how can it be numbers matching And the trim tag looks fake to me. Whichs bags the question if your faking a black 427 car why use a AO Smith trim tag

 

Wow - It is hard for me to get my head around a seller thinking that a buyer of something so expensive would not exercise due diligence to figure this out before spending large on it.

Must be some fools and their money loose out there.

 

Just becouse the seller messed up and bought the car to flip doesn't mean they should down right lie about it Ten mins of research would save people lots of money

 

This forum saved me from plenty of mistakes when I was searching for my C2.

 

Me too. Who knows ? The dealer may actually believe what they've stated. I've seen it before. However, they are wide open to a fraud claim by a buyer that gets smart after the sale...their own 'hype' in the ad will bring them down...

 

I have visited that dealer not real far from Love Field. Consignments mostly and no specialty that I could tell. Real nice people, but not corvette savvy at all. They pretty much present what they take in as it is. And they take in blingy cars. This is that for sure. But it is clearly a put together L68

 

After reading your comment, I re-reviewed the add, and I think it is clear that there actionable fraudulent statements in the add, but I am not an attorney, and I do not play one on TV.

 

Real or not (I say NOT) one thing's for sure, it's running like crap! The guy driving was feathering it to get it up from idle to a higher rpm and it had a miss between shifts. I also noticed the right turn signal blinking waaay fast but I especially enjoyed the part showing the "one " headlight motor retracting.

Gary

 

Unless I am misunderstanding thing, don't you mean a put together L68?



Steve

 

I actually emailed them several days ago and informed them about the AO smith issues, they mildly argued back, so I sent them info from John Hinckleys 67 body article in corvette enthusiast magazine, and I have had no response since then.

 

Now you've gone and done it. They will have to claim that they never saw your contributions, and that the previous seller was not straight with them.

 

Lots of good info. here. It also looks like the wipers are incorrectly positioned. Right side should be above left. Also the e-brake handle on later 67 cars had chrome trim.(not all though) This vin. suggests a late build car.
Paint can hide a lot of issues. The overspray in the hood surround looks horrible. To bad the auctions were not open to posting ? submitted. Posting ? is controlled by the seller. In the past, all ? were posted.
Ever since ebay started requiring payment through paypal, I stopped doing business with them. I have never bounced a check, and I am not going to have some one TELL me how I will pay for anything.
Thanks again Keith. This is a good teaching forum. Keep up the good work. Are you bringing the Black 67 to Carlisle? It would be nice to see it.

 

I've seen this car ... It was on the lift when I was at the dealer a couple of weeks ago ... They were taking the underside photos while I was there ... Looks great from a distance, while I couldn't get past the k/o's on a '67 it was still a great looking car. It did strike me as "too well-optioned to come from the factory like that".

Ray

 

I had emailed them as well and finally got a response, spoken like a true dealer. Vin should be posted to make the unfortunate future buy aware. 194677S122571

"READ THIS!!! You are wrong. They didn't make th hoods, and they didn't build anything but bodies.


The birdcage assembly tooling at Ionia
didn’t include provisions to die-pierce the
notches in the sills and sill reinforcements
required for later assembly clearance for
units with RPO N-14 side exhausts, so
no orders for units specifying sidepipes
were ever allocated to A.O. Smith. All
bodies for sidepipe-equipped Corvettes
were built at St. Louis.

The A.O. Smith
paint shop used the same process and
materials that were used at St. Louis,
except for the 1967 big-block hood.
The physical layout of the A.O. Smith
paint shop wasn’t conducive to the time-
consuming and labor-intensive masking
required to paint the contrasting colors on
the big-block “stinger” hood and header
panel, and their personnel were never
able to master the masking process. As
a result, it’s generally accepted that very
few 1967 big-block bodies (or none)
were built at A.O. Smith after the first few
weeks of 1967 production.


and yes, All 67 Corvettes were made in St Louis, but the bodies were made at 2 different plants, its were the body was made that made the difference. No AO Smith big blocks or side exhaust cars, and the number on your trim tag (A-4881) confirms that this body was an Smith built body.

The only thing we missed on was the side pipes.The car is legit."

 

interesting.....they used my email as a response to you, here is a link to the article: and this is how my conversation with them went:

Dear texasclassiccarsofdallas,

John Hinckley wrote a great article about the differences in the 2 body's (A.O. Smith and St Louis) in June 2006 for Corvette Enthusiast. I would send you a link to it, but eBay I don't think allows it (just google it). Here are two paragraphs from that article:

The birdcage assembly tooling at Ionia
didn’t include provisions to die-pierce the
notches in the sills and sill reinforcements
required for later assembly clearance for
units with RPO N-14 side exhausts, so
no orders for units specifying sidepipes
were ever allocated to A.O. Smith. All
bodies for sidepipe-equipped Corvettes
were built at St. Louis.

The A.O. Smith
paint shop used the same process and
materials that were used at St. Louis,
except for the 1967 big-block hood.
The physical layout of the A.O. Smith
paint shop wasn’t conducive to the time-
consuming and labor-intensive masking
required to paint the contrasting colors on
the big-block “stinger” hood and header
panel, and their personnel were never
able to master the masking process. As
a result, it’s generally accepted that very
few 1967 big-block bodies (or none)
were built at A.O. Smith after the first few
weeks of 1967 production.


and yes, All 67 Corvettes were made in St Louis, but the bodies were made at 2 different plants, its were the body was made that made the difference. No AO Smith big blocks or side exhaust cars, and the number on your trim tag (A-4881) confirms that this body was an Smith built body.

Dennis



- 19vette67



From: texasclassiccarsofdallas
To: 19vette67
Subject: Re: Vehicle condition: 19vette67 sent a message about Chevrolet : Corvette L68 Sting Ray #391190149504
Sent Date: Jul-09-15 21:48:24 PDT

Dear 19vette67,

Really? WE are told that side pipes were only installed at the St. Louis plant where this one was. Also you can tell by the way it's put together. THis is not the first factory side pipe car we've sold.

- texasclassiccarsofdallas



From: 19vette67
To: texasclassiccarsofdallas
Subject: Vehicle condition: 19vette67 sent a message about Chevrolet : Corvette L68 Sting Ray #391190149504
Sent Date: Jul-09-15 10:05:19 PDT

Dear texasclassiccarsofdallas,

Hi, just FYI, your car shows an A.O. Smith built trim plate, no 67 AO Smith cars were built with sidepipes or a big block engine. at best this car can be called a big block clone, but did not start life as a big block. your car looks very nice, but I would encourage you to do your own research on this matter just to ensure no problems with a potential sale.

- 19vette67

 

Not to say ALL are the same but, aren't car dealers wonderful. Selective hearing/seeing/thinking just to make a buck.

Gary

 

you going to drive down to the guys dealership and pace/picket his lot with a big sign on a stick! Who cares if an investor type, non enthusiast gets rich off of another get rich to flip type, who cares nothing about knowing anything more than making a buck and probably got ripped off and will rip off in return. I have only purchased from private parties, without the advertising hype like with the auction companies, and snake oil selling types of Dealer lots. If you walk into those, then maybe you deserve to be pickpocketed. Also, alot of impulse buyers exist, and sometimes that causes good advice or information to go in one ear and out the other! Some people just can't be saved! If people want to play in this arena of prices, don't worry about them or who is trying to screw people who won't or don't do their homework!

 

The main thing I see wrong with it is that its a convertible.