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Old May 13, 2018 | 03:57 PM
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As I mentioned a year and a half ago when this thread started, this idea has been brewing for most of my life. I loved these cars as a kid back in the 60s and wanted one later as a teen. However, they were always a few thousand too much to even consider. The idea never died, but it sure changed over time. Like that Caddy that Johnny Cash stole “one piece at a time” this car changed over the years. When I got close to doing for about the 5th time (late 90s) we had yet to dream of projector lights or 20” wheels. What a “modernized” 60s car will be changes as the times change.
These are the headlights we came up with: projectors, LED surrounds, and a totally different mechanism of opening. Closed, the lines of the car are unchanged. Open, it’s a definite upgrade of the old way. Some will like it, some will not.



My idea to add the LEDs for a more modern look



Doors drop down rather than flip over



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Old May 13, 2018 | 04:05 PM
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Another look. Obviously, this is not my car in the pictures.




Doors open



The units outside the car



Doors closed
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Old May 13, 2018 | 04:12 PM
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Old May 13, 2018 | 10:02 PM
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We’re in a color scheme debate now. I agree that I don’t like the colors we picked. My wife doesn’t like the new colors OR the old colors. Maybe we’ll tie dye that sucker and just forget it?!
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Since everyone seemed pretty surprised we took all the fiberglass off of the car, here’s some pictures of how it all starts to go back together.







Apparently, you need about 500 clamps to do a job like this.
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Old May 16, 2018 | 10:43 PM
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500 clamps may not be enough



The original



The new

The car had the 6 taillight look when we found it. It appears to me that this car was pretty original from 50 years ago and not much had been done to it, including actually taking care of it. Also, when you widen the body, the 6 lights really help to keep the shape of the car intact. With just 4, the car looks oddly wide. Further, since 6 taillights was a common mod from the 60s, it just seemed right to go back with them, as they were likely about as old as the car.
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Old May 17, 2018 | 09:49 AM
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I had forgotten that a year and a half ago, my builder was thrilled to find that the car’s interior was almost entirely intact. I was busy researching a variety of different options for seats and assumed we had thrown the rest of the car away. We’re pretty excited now to find out that he plans to go pretty much stock on the interior AND will be using all/almost all of the original interior parts!


Interior really looks pretty good for a 50 year old, bombed out car



Might require SOME work


The plan seems to be to use the stock seat frames, add a bit of bolster to help out on hard cornering, and to add some headrests in the 67 style. I’m totally stoked about this idea, as the typical C6 seat conversion just looks out of place to me.
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Originally Posted by Dieselvol
We’re in a color scheme debate now. I agree that I don’t like the colors we picked. My wife doesn’t like the new colors OR the old colors. Maybe we’ll tie dye that sucker and just forget it?!
Most striking 67 BBs, I've ever seen, Lyndale Blue with sliver stinger, and Lyndale Blue with Elkhart blue stinger.

Both very classy looking an both appeal to the Ladies. Rare combinations that gets people to come over and check out car, vs the colors you see most often on BB 67s. Not Flashy or Trashy.




Also another seat option I've seen done twice, Is to take C6 seats, cut the backs down an add original 67 Headrests to them. Very stock looking when upholstered like stock seat and sit good.

Just something to think about.

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Old May 17, 2018 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Poorhousenext
Most striking 67 BBs, I've ever seen, Lyndale Blue with sliver stinger, and Lyndale Blue with Elkhart blue stinger.

Both very classy looking an both appeal to the Ladies. Rare combinations that gets people to come over and check out car, vs the colors you see most often on BB 67s. Not Flashy or Trashy.




Also another seat option I've seen done twice, Is to take C6 seats, cut the backs down an add original 67 Headrests to them. Very stock looking when upholstered like stock seat and sit good.

Just something to think about.
What color interior do you go with on those? Thanks for the input, BTW.
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Old May 17, 2018 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dieselvol
We’re in a color scheme debate now. I agree that I don’t like the colors we picked. My wife doesn’t like the new colors OR the old colors. Maybe we’ll tie dye that sucker and just forget it?!
I don’t really want to change this to a “paint my car” thread, but we are considering what to do color wise. We WERE going with a dark gray like the new Watkins Glen Gray, black stinger, and some red accents I’ll discuss later. That was felt “too boring” on the spray outs. Attention then turned to Mercedes silver with a red stinger and a red interior. I don’t really like a red stinger and my wife HATES a red interior. So, we’re pretty nowhere. Just painting stock colors seems to not follow the “modernization” plan. Anybody care to throw some colors into the mix?
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Old May 18, 2018 | 07:48 PM
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Yes, I blacked out the wheels on purpose





Note the heavy lines on the fenders. The builder put those in on purpose because he feels it’s gives an “on steroids” look to the car. We’ve been to 2 shows with the car now and the reaction has been mixed. The former head of the Corvette division in Bowling Green saw it at the Corvette Expo and gave it 2 . Again, some will like it, some will not.
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Old May 18, 2018 | 07:56 PM
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I can see the 'steroids' without the 'heavy lines'; "I" wouldn't do it; but it's not my car...

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Old May 18, 2018 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wmf62
I can see the 'steroids' without the 'heavy lines'; "I" wouldn't do it; but it's not my car...

Bill
I’m not that crazy about it either. I’m really not sure anybody has loved it. Maybe someone will chime in.
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Originally Posted by wmf62
I can see the 'steroids' without the 'heavy lines'; "I" wouldn't do it; but it's not my car...

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Bill,

I wouldn't call the body lines heavy, I would call them CRISP/Sharp to show off the body's lines.

Look at the door skin, it's body line is stock at the stage it was bonded on. Compared to the front and rear body panels in pictures. It to me and many others has a washed out body line. Crisping up the body lines even on a stock body is a common practice for a non NCRS builds, just as making body panels wave-less.

You have to remember, 99% of the audience that will be viewing that car want know/want see the difference between non-crisp C2 body lines, and crisp/heavy ones, made to show off the beauty of a C2's design.

Factory just couldn't take the time to do it.

Bobby Alloway's 1963 SW CP. You see that car in person, you would understand, crisp lines. That is a stock 63 body, with body lines Crisped. Car being black makes lines standout even more.

Wait until his car is finished to judge it's Crisp/Heavy, lines.



PS: Lets don't talk about those wheels on Alloway,s car...LOL

By the way, I've never had anyone criticize the Heavy/Crisp body lines on my car.



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Originally Posted by Poorhousenext
Bill,

I wouldn't call the body lines heavy, I would call them CRISP/Sharp to show off the body's lines.

Look at the door skin, it's body line is stock at the stage it was bonded on. Compared to the front and rear body panels in pictures. It to me and many others has a washed out body line. Crisping up the body lines even on a stock body is a common practice for a non NCRS builds, just as making body panels wave-less.

You have to remember, 99% of the audience that will be viewing that car want know/want see the difference between non-crisp C2 body lines, and crisp/heavy ones, made to show off the beauty of a C2's design.

Factory just couldn't take the time to do it.

Bobby Alloway's 1963 SW CP. You see that car in person, you would understand, crisp lines. That is a stock 63 body, with body lines Crisped. Car being black makes lines standout even more.

Wait until his car is finished to judge it's Crisp/Heavy, lines.



PS: Lets don't talk about those wheels on Alloway,s car...LOL
maybe it's a matter of terminology... "I" prefer the smooth flow of the wide body panels from the top of the fender to the beltline rather than the crease midway between the top of the fender to the belt line

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Originally Posted by wmf62
maybe it's a matter of terminology... "I" prefer the smooth flow of the wide body panels from the top of the fender to the beltline rather than the crease midway between the top of the fender to the belt line

Bill
I was editing my post to show you how Heavy/Crisp line can show off the classic body lines of a C2. If the lines on Lydia weren't Heavy/Crisp, you would not see the Front and Rear lower hump's crease lines, those would be washed out. Never had anyone criticize them, but Lydia is the World's only Transgendered {Female Vs Male C2 in the World}, so showing off her feminine curved body lines may be Ok, Vs Male muscle ones...LOL.



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Originally Posted by Poorhousenext
I was editing my post to show you how Heavy/Crisp line can show off the classic body lines of a C2. If the lines on Lydia weren't Heavy/Crisp, you would not see the Front and Rear lower hump's crease lines, those would be washed out.


I understand, and you have an amazing car; but "I" prefer the subtle 'steroids' look..

just different strokes for different folks

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Originally Posted by Poorhousenext
I was editing my post to show you how Heavy/Crisp line can show off the classic body lines of a C2. If the lines on Lydia weren't Heavy/Crisp, you would not see the Front and Rear lower hump's crease lines, those would be washed out.


I can’t believe I’ve never noticed those lines on Lydia. I’ve looked at that car a lot too. I guess they don’t bother me after all.
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I can’t believe I’ve never noticed those lines on Lydia. I’ve looked at that car a lot too. I guess they don’t bother me after all.
You would notice them even less if the pearlized paint on car did not have so much color shift to it that changes color based on lighting conditions.

They can wash out like stock body sometimes, but thank the Being that said "Let There Be Light" it's not often even at night...LOL
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