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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:01 PM
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Man who does not love a happy ending????

Congratulations, one of the more mysterious threads comes to a conclusion.
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:01 PM
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I like the old saying "when you hear hoof prints think horses not zebras", seems appropriate yet again. Glad you got it out without tearing the whole car apart.

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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Daren67
It's out. George (GCD 1962) fellow Corvette forum member was gracious enough to come over and pop it out. 2 pry bars equal pressure. Roll pin was fine. Appreciate everyone's help. And yes over 70% of the members say use more force. Spins shitty while out. But other dist that George brought fit right in. Thanks again and yes I stand up when i go to the bathroom
glad you got the distributor out. I would like to know what was holding it in that required pry bars. Gunk or something else?
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:17 PM
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Whew, that's got to be a relief, not having a huge problem uncovered. Congrats.

Sounds like your old dizzy bushings may need work?

Now that you've had your big anomaly, it should all be smooth sailing from here.
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:23 PM
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Almost 200 posts. ..For good reason, lots of interest in this one. Good to see some extra muscle took care of it!
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vettsplit 63
glad you got the distributor out. I would like to know what was holding it in that required pry bars. Gunk or something else?
Wasn't gunk by one of rings has marks on it . It does not go back in but other spare on that George brought from 61 corvette fit right in . As tag is not on it (anymore) I might just buy new one. Does any new ones have tach drive? Car is all stock
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:44 PM
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It took the two of us applying equal pressure underneath the housing to get it to pop loose. The problem was with the machined part of the housing. In particular the lower two boss's just above the gear (especially the first one). Didn't have a micrometer but it appears to be slightly egg shape. You could twist the housing part way, then it became very stiff and with more effort you could get to go loose again. I put the distributor I had in and it went it normally all the way to the cam gear. I took it out, tried the problem one again and at the first machined boss it would not slip in. Didn't force it, but that is where the problem was. Must have been made that way as there is no damage anywhere.

In any case, problems solved and Daren was smart not to force anything or initially go to an extreme.
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GCD1962
It took the two of us applying equal pressure underneath the housing to get it to pop loose. The problem was with the machined part of the housing. In particular the lower two boss's just above the gear (especially the first one). Didn't have a micrometer but it appears to be slightly egg shape. You could twist the housing part way, then it became very stiff and with more effort you could get to go loose again. I put the distributor I had in and it went it normally all the way to the cam gear. I took it out, tried the problem one again and at the first machined boss it would not slip in. Didn't force it, but that is where the problem was. Must have been made that way as there is no damage anywhere.

In any case, problems solved and Daren was smart not to force anything or initially go to an extreme.
I wonder, also given his comment on the shaft not rotating smoothly in the housing if the housing is bent or warped?
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:52 PM
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Kudos go to GCD1962 for helping a member out...
Glad that's over with - it was giving me a stomach ulcer...

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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GCD1962
It took the two of us applying equal pressure underneath the housing to get it to pop loose.

In any case, problems solved and Daren was smart not to force anything or initially go to an extreme.
Originally Posted by Easy Rhino
I wonder, also given his comment on the shaft not rotating smoothly in the housing if the housing is bent or warped?
'ppears to me you used "force" or extra effort to get it out as many advised?

I am thinking something here is bent. How, I have no idea.

I'd check the distributor gear for strange looking wear because the cam gear might be damaged from a bent shaft or??????????????
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 04:41 PM
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Glad it's out, but you could have helped the diagnosis a bit by letting us know that you had to POUND IT IN when it was last installed!


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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 04:42 PM
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Con Grats....BUT............More Things await you down the road. This was just a test of your ability to deal with the "Plastic Fantastic."

Yah All Come Back Now.... Of course we will be here to help. Good Luck with the rest of your project.
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeM
'ppears to me you used "force" or extra effort to get it out as many advised?

I am thinking something here is bent. How, I have no idea.

I'd check the distributor gear for strange looking wear because the cam gear might be damaged from a bent shaft or??????????????
The force was by the leverage from the tools we used so hard to tell exactly how much force was used. Once positioned it took a couple of hard slaps on the handles to get it out.

I really don't think it was bent (very hard to do with the casting) as the binding was at the first machined ring just above the gear. My guess is that it was not machined in line with the other rings. It was the only ring that should any marks from bad (tight) fit. When turning the housing before it was out it would turn easy, then hard as rotated. Once that ring was past the first hole in the block it became a little easier. There was still some resistance at the second hole, but none after that (the third hole is larger).

No damage or wear was on the gear. We looked down the hole in the engine and all seemed fine. It was just that one ring that was machined wrong creating the binding. Couldn't tell how hard it was to go in, but OP never had to take it out after getting the car. It maybe took a little effort, but who knows.

Best thing to do at this point is to get another distributor as mine went in and out as normal - no force at all.

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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 05:55 PM
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Good job. Good neighbor!
Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:25 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:50 PM
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Glad you got it out, but now I'll have to find something else to entertain myself....sure has been exciting.
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Originally Posted by GCD1962
The force was by the leverage from the tools we used so hard to tell exactly how much force was used. Once positioned it took a couple of hard slaps on the handles to get it out.

I really don't think it was bent (very hard to do with the casting) as the binding was at the first machined ring just above the gear. My guess is that it was not machined in line with the other rings. It was the only ring that should any marks from bad (tight) fit. When turning the housing before it was out it would turn easy, then hard as rotated. Once that ring was past the first hole in the block it became a little easier. There was still some resistance at the second hole, but none after that (the third hole is larger).

No damage or wear was on the gear. We looked down the hole in the engine and all seemed fine. It was just that one ring that was machined wrong creating the binding. Couldn't tell how hard it was to go in, but OP never had to take it out after getting the car. It maybe took a little effort, but who knows.

Best thing to do at this point is to get another distributor as mine went in and out as normal - no force at all.
A big shout out to you for your help!

If the two "rings" are egg shaped, then how did the distributor go in the first, and all the times after, including when the OP said it was last removed in the mid eighties?

I hope that someone will mike both "rings" and confirm they are egg shaped?

If not, then the entire housing is bent, dinged or damaged, or there's metallic crap in the engine that we're missing.

Or the engine block itself has been deformed or dinged. Those annuli form a seal to maintain oil pressure.

This needs further investigation before closing the book on it.

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Good job. Good neighbor!


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I hope you guys had time for a cold beer! This job certainly earned one or a few.
Nice work. If you don't need an exact number match replacement new and rebuilt distributors are available. Glad it is behind you!
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Originally Posted by Westlotorn
I hope you guys had time for a cold beer! This job certainly earned one or a few.
Nice work. If you don't need an exact number match replacement new and rebuilt distributors are available. Glad it is behind you!
I had a few cold beers myself trying to figure it out for him.

Does anyone else have a problem that I can help him with?



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