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From: Middle TN by way of KY, OH, VA, IL, CA, FL, NY, SC, HI
Originally Posted by 65tripleblack
If the two "rings" are egg shaped, then how did the distributor go in the first, and all the times after, including when the OP said it was last removed in the mid eighties?
I hope that someone will mike both "rings" and confirm they are egg shaped?
If not, then the entire housing is bent, dinged or damaged, or there's metallic crap in the engine that we're missing.
Or the engine block itself has been deformed or dinged. Those annuli form a seal to maintain oil pressure.
This needs further investigation before closing the book on it.
^This, totally^
If it mikes out oddly, was there any internal engine damage from installing it? Just how did it get installed? Could have been Bubba'd.
Your methodical approach to this WTF (technical acronym meaning anamoly) was right on as it turns out, and I don't recall anyone speculating that the dizzy housing was untrue, and then your approach to figuring out WTF going forward is very apt as well. I've never even heard of an untrue dizzy housing, and I certainly don't recall anyone miking a dizzy housing land prior to installation.
But what do I know - I'm just another of the brain dead hayseeds on the forum.
Just what do you do for a living?
Last edited by Easy Rhino; Feb 5, 2017 at 11:21 AM.
Reason: To add snarky hayseed comment.
I've followed this interesting dilemma from the beginning. I have R & R my share of dizzy's but have never experienced a stuck one. I love the happy ending! And if I ever experience a stuck dizzy I know now know what to do.
You are going to saw the distributor in half after you pull the pan and see that's no help. All this before leaning in to the work a little harder?
I have to ask, what machine tooling is in place in the manufacture of a distributor housing to machine it in an egg shape and be oversize at that.
Distributor body bent? How can you bend cast iron?
I've seen this problem many times over the years as have many other respondents to this thread. All it took to get the distributor out was a method similar to what was used.
FWIW, valve lifters used to hang in the block bores the same way for the same reason. I think somebody made a puller to get them out. I never could afford the puller but a pair of channel locks on the lifter, pulling it up until it stopped and then working the lifter back and forth and it would finally come out. Some were stuck to the point you had to go through that dril 3-4 times.
GCD1962 - well done for both helping a fellow forum member out and explaining the issue in terms we can all understand.
Daren67 - congrats on getting the issue resolved. Could you post pictures of the distributor out of the engine. Also, do you have a micrometer or vernier caliper. We would all like to know what the actual size of the distributor housing bosses are in multiple dimensions.
I went from the "use more force" camp, to the "displaced roll pin" (damn my eyes) group and then to the "RTV gooped up" followers (I'm going straight to hell).
I've never heard of egg-shaped "bosses" on the distributor...
Not sure what to say about but if it were me I'd take it to a lake and throw the whole thing as far out in the water as I could; if it floats its good; if it sinks its bad...
Last edited by Frankie the Fink; Feb 5, 2017 at 09:34 PM.
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Daren is sending the distributor out to me so I can go through it. I'll check it out and see what caused the problem. I have his carb, too, and just finished building it - it's on the test engine for checkout and setup right now, so by the time both components are back on his car, things should run pretty well!
Daren is sending the distributor out to me so I can go through it. I'll check it out and see what caused the problem. I have his carb, too, and just finished building it - it's on the test engine for checkout and setup right now, so by the time both components are back on his car, things should run pretty well!
Lars
Then all will be well Lars - my 63 distributor you rebuilt perked my lil ole base motor up a bunch. This thread had so much flumaxing around I hope you'll post what you find...
I am complex person with very simple principles to live by....so if some think they know me....well they don't.
I already got 'bitch-slapped' for even offering it as an option. I am SORRY that I can think out of the box...but it is funny how it seems that remembering what I wrote BEFORE the option of cutting the distributor is overlooked by those giving their views on how foolish this option was. WHICH if what I wrote BEFORE the cutting incident....would have more than likely fixed the problem. All some want to do is focus on an idea that was not something that they would ever do...which is fine....BUT...I did wrote " IF ALL ELSE FAILS". I guess that means nothing.
Well...lets see...how am I supposed to 'read into' the comment of the 'second genius' who wanted to cut the distributor shaft. Seeing how I am the one who thought of it and wrote it.
I CLEARLY wrote the intent of it and IF it were to be implemented.
And at least I had the b@lls to direct my comment instead of leaving it up to this mystical interpretation of who I meant it for. Like I am supposed to know who he was commenting on...oh yeah...ME..... because I was the only one who mentioned cutting the distributor.
If that offends or shocks anybody...oh well. I do not directly attack anybody UNTIL they choose to first start throwing daggers (figuratively---of course).
I am fine if anybody does not like what I suggest...but be ready for a reply that will match the intensity... if not more than how a person comments on what they think of what I wrote.