[C2] Breakerless ign.
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The man asked where he could find a breakerless ignition system and I assumed that was the 'brand' he wanted. I no longer recommend the Pertronix after decades of using them with no issues. Because novice owners dick up the install, miswire the ballast resistor depending on version, use wrong plug wires, have coil issues, etc.. and failures are blamed on the Hall cell itself (you have prob 8 in your modern car).
All of a sudden the module itself is a POS because something went wrong - go figure.
The Breakerless-SE uses stock EVERYTHING and other than installing the rotor cap shutter vanes (a bit tricky); a caveman could do it.
All of a sudden the module itself is a POS because something went wrong - go figure.
The Breakerless-SE uses stock EVERYTHING and other than installing the rotor cap shutter vanes (a bit tricky); a caveman could do it.
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I have the 'Breakerless' (brand) in my 64 and its been working flawlessly since first crank. To be fair:that's only 1000 miles ago.
Installation is simple but requires precision. I can agree that to a knowledgeable person who knows how to select the correct combination of all components in the ignition system (refer to Frankie's list above ) Pertronix is a very good system. To the less knowledgeable , I would vote for the Breakerless.
A local shop told me last week that with Pertronix the coils give up when you leave the ignition key in the 'on' position for too long with the engine at rest.
Installation is simple but requires precision. I can agree that to a knowledgeable person who knows how to select the correct combination of all components in the ignition system (refer to Frankie's list above ) Pertronix is a very good system. To the less knowledgeable , I would vote for the Breakerless.
A local shop told me last week that with Pertronix the coils give up when you leave the ignition key in the 'on' position for too long with the engine at rest.
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That was with the early Pertronix version without all the safeguards; never heard of it with the later versions - but the myth lingers...
Pertronix III has a rev-limiter which I like but not enough to recommend it. I wish I had a nickel for every thread posted asking for help in hooking up a Pertronix and what components are compatible...then there was that spate of bad Flamethrower coils that contributed to the bad taste about the product. It just got old dealing with it; as stated the Breakerless Stealth Edition (SE) is a pretty brain dead install... I laugh when I hear folks state that the cost is prohibitive.
If you want a cheap hobby I think there are still used Atari systems that already have the "Pong" game included...
Pertronix III has a rev-limiter which I like but not enough to recommend it. I wish I had a nickel for every thread posted asking for help in hooking up a Pertronix and what components are compatible...then there was that spate of bad Flamethrower coils that contributed to the bad taste about the product. It just got old dealing with it; as stated the Breakerless Stealth Edition (SE) is a pretty brain dead install... I laugh when I hear folks state that the cost is prohibitive.
If you want a cheap hobby I think there are still used Atari systems that already have the "Pong" game included...
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Well, lets do the math $140. for a Lectra Limited unit.
$69.58 for a Pertronix
You can buy 2 of the Pertronix for the price of one of the other PLUS the cost of your points and condenser.
Here is a link to Summit for the Pertronix
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pnx-1281/overview/
I know what I would be doing.
$69.58 for a Pertronix
You can buy 2 of the Pertronix for the price of one of the other PLUS the cost of your points and condenser.
Here is a link to Summit for the Pertronix
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pnx-1281/overview/
I know what I would be doing.
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not sure about the fact that this 'leaving the key in the on position is a problem' belongs to the class of stubborn myths.
This is what pertronix says in the installation manual ...
And I am well aware that none of us ever leaves the key in the on position by negligence
This is what pertronix says in the installation manual ...
And I am well aware that none of us ever leaves the key in the on position by negligence
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not sure about the fact that this 'leaving the key in the on position is a problem' belongs to the class of stubborn myths.
This is what pertronix says in the installation manual ...
And I am well aware that none of us ever leaves the key in the on position by negligence
This is what pertronix says in the installation manual ...
And I am well aware that none of us ever leaves the key in the on position by negligence
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Hey those Tampons can be used as fire tinder, bandages, survival water filter, blowgun dart fletching and the plastic housing can serve as an emergency drinking straw; you don't have to buy the expensive ones. (All these suggestions apply only to new, unused items BTW)
Your money would be better spent on an electronic points conversion though.
Everybody knows they increase your stamina, help you workout longer and enhance your performance in the bedroom...
Your money would be better spent on an electronic points conversion though.
Everybody knows they increase your stamina, help you workout longer and enhance your performance in the bedroom...
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Using SAT words...Good for you. The cotton gin was better than people at separating cotton but breakerless ignition ain't better than points at the miles we drive our cream puffs.
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a member of any of the bands of English workers who destroyed machinery, especially in cotton and woolen mills, that they believed was threatening their jobs (1811–16).
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"a small-minded Luddite resisting progress"
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Mine aren't cream puffs either but at a thousand miles a year or so, points work fine and I don't have to worry about keeping my cell phone handy for the roll back.
Besides, If you do a cost/benefit analysis, the electronic trigger doesn't pay out in your lifetime with those few miles.
I am not what you'd call cheap. Just frugal.
Besides, If you do a cost/benefit analysis, the electronic trigger doesn't pay out in your lifetime with those few miles.
I am not what you'd call cheap. Just frugal.
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Mine aren't cream puffs either but at a thousand miles a year or so, points work fine and I don't have to worry about keeping my cell phone handy for the roll back.
Besides, If you do a cost/benefit analysis, the electronic trigger doesn't pay out in your lifetime with those few miles.
I am not what you'd call cheap. Just frugal.
Besides, If you do a cost/benefit analysis, the electronic trigger doesn't pay out in your lifetime with those few miles.
I am not what you'd call cheap. Just frugal.
Those for whom cost effectiveness is paramount are likely to drive a effing Prius - and I'm pretty sure that ain't you!
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Mine aren't cream puffs either but at a thousand miles a year or so, points work fine and I don't have to worry about keeping my cell phone handy for the roll back.
Besides, If you do a cost/benefit analysis, the electronic trigger doesn't pay out in your lifetime with those few miles.
I am not what you'd call cheap. Just frugal.
Besides, If you do a cost/benefit analysis, the electronic trigger doesn't pay out in your lifetime with those few miles.
I am not what you'd call cheap. Just frugal.
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