Flood cars
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the plot thickens.... Frank you should send him a link to the copart auction and ask
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No. I'm done and know this type well.
Too much exposure and I'll need a bath in Lysol....
Too much exposure and I'll need a bath in Lysol....
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Back in 1976 I bought a 1971 SS454 El Camino with 44,000 miles on it. Later I installed a stereo and speakers. When I pulled the door panels off the doors had thick silt (dirt) inside the bottoms. I also pulled the carpet to put an amp in the storage compartment behind the driver's seat. Same story. Silt under the carpet and in the storage compartment. A few years later the lower quarters started rusting out and the back window area did as well. I bought it from a private party in Garden Grove not far from Disneyland, and I lived about 8 miles north. Being in So Cal we felt it shouldn't have rusted so soon and the silt was a big question. I sold it to a friend who 10 years later took it apart to do a restoration. He was there was silt everywhere. We came to believe it was a flood vehicle dumped in California.
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I think that since the car he's selling is a triple crown winner, it has passed a thorough inspection by multiple experts. And the ebay ad mentions the shipping data report, shows the NCRS validated tank sticker and shows the POP, so vin 194677S105247 was a car that actually left the factory. It would be interesting to see if 194377s105247 is in the NCRS shipping database.
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If you are the winning bidder on this '66 Coupe for $45K, and you did some slight research and you looked at the photo of the rear carpet ... Congratulations on your purchase, both you and this car deserve each other.
Ray
Ray
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I have learned that people get good at parsing words, such that a lie, isn't really a lie. Sort of like it depends on what the meaning of is, is.
If this guy doesn't have salvage title, he didn't lie, even if he knew the car was a flood car. He could have washed the title fully knowing it was flood car, yet if it isn't now salvage title, it isn't.
For all i know he is part of nation wide Chinese or Bulgarian backed, DMV paying off, international criminal syndicate low level apparatchik stationed in BF Utah to pedal bad cars...
Doug
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Those interior pictures makes it obvious what happened to this car. The seats and carpet are silt stained and mildewed.
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Here is the report from NVMTIS, showing the brand of Flood damage, and the brand of Salvage.
This information is in a federal database, and it will not be removed. The car may get a total restoration, but it will always be branded this way.
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Well that just blew any thinking that the guy might not know about the cars past!
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Unless a car was claimed on an insurance flood damage claim, it would not have a flood/salvage title. Your car can be flooded, and if you never make an insurance claim, the title stays the way it was before the flood. I have seen many that are cleaned up and sold that have clear normal titles. That is not illegal as I understand it, as long as you disclose the flood issue.
Last edited by mikelj; 02-24-2018 at 12:10 PM.
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Its good to know it covers any VIN ans not just the newer 17 digit VINs.
Good info. Thanks!
Doug
Good info. Thanks!
Doug
As I stated earlier, it is the VIN that is branded in the NMVTIS.
Here is the report from NVMTIS, showing the brand of Flood damage, and the brand of Salvage.
This information is in a federal database, and it will not be removed. The car may get a total restoration, but it will always be branded this way.
Here is the report from NVMTIS, showing the brand of Flood damage, and the brand of Salvage.
This information is in a federal database, and it will not be removed. The car may get a total restoration, but it will always be branded this way.
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-‘19-'20-'21-'22-'23-'24
Many many years ago there was a train wreck. One dark night a train stopped, and the train of another railroad, operating over the first line's tracks, ran into the rear. Naturally there were lawsuits back and forth.
The flagman of the first train was a hayseed bumpkin and there was much speculation he had screwed up. But on the witness stand, he testified that he did take the red lantern, sprinted back the required distance, and gave a vigorous "STOP" signal as the second train sped by. SO sincere was his testimony that the jury acquitted the railroad of the first train of negligence.
Afterward, his lawyer was congratulating him on his excellent testimony and keeping his cool under questioning. The fellow replied "Wall, yep, I kept cool and done what you tole me, to tell the truth. But I was a-shakin inside, cause I was a-feared he was gonna ask me 'Was that red lantern LIT?' "
Maybe a better question on the car would have been "Does it have any signs it may have been in a flood?"
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"The window had been left down'. This just made my morning. I supposed they 'left a hatch open' on the Titanic. Hilarious!!!