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Old 03-24-2018, 04:50 PM
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I guess the cops 'rushed to judgement' when they said alcohol was involved. Really ?
They don't say that lightly or without cause....even so, if you're too dumb to wear your seat belt you become a 'meat missile' and your survival chances drop to nil.

Cut it any way you want it - this guy was big time contributory to his on demise.
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The article said “alcohol appears to have been a factor” - not exactly a definitive or conclusive statement. But hey, lets all trash the guy before the facts are known.
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Old 03-24-2018, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I guess the cops 'rushed to judgement' when they said alcohol was involved. Really ?
They don't say that lightly or without cause....even so, if you're too dumb to wear your seat belt you become a 'meat missile' and your survival chances drop to nil.

Cut it any way you want it - this guy was big time contributory to his on demise.

What they say and what the actual facts are can be two different things. Was alcohol the main factor and what were the circumstances and actual cause of the accident. I was involved in a single car accident and the Sheriff's Deputy lied thru his teeth on the witness stand after falsifying the accident report which included making up fictitious witnesses with fictitious addresses and phone numbers. What was written in the accident report was total bullshit and the actual facts were never mentioned. The Judge agreed and stated "It looks like the State didn't do it's job, case dismissed."

I suppose all motorcycle riders are meat missiles, dumb and big time contributors to their own demise.
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Old 03-24-2018, 07:52 PM
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He will obviously never learn a lesson from this but anyone reading this should .
How many of my friends during the 60s did drag race .
My self included most cars didn't have seat belts .We took these cars all out had a couple beers under our belts .
The speedometers were bouncing off the far end ,the bias tires holding .Luck and God was with many of us .It was part of the corvette Heritage . That's the way it was don't condemn this guy till all the facts are out .At his age he wasn't all out he wouldn't want to wreck his ride .I think the wheel came off .Now a day's 3 beers you are drunk . I lived it saw many guys who were pulled by a fender
going all out My self included would change it for nothing.
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Originally Posted by GTs 58
What they say and what the actual facts are can be two different things. Was alcohol the main factor and what were the circumstances and actual cause of the accident. I was involved in a single car accident and the Sheriff's Deputy lied thru his teeth on the witness stand after falsifying the accident report which included making up fictitious witnesses with fictitious addresses and phone numbers. What was written in the accident report was total bullshit and the actual facts were never mentioned. The Judge agreed and stated "It looks like the State didn't do it's job, case dismissed."

I suppose all motorcycle riders are meat missiles, dumb and big time contributors to their own demise.
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I rode bikes in Virginia in the 60s without a helmet at triple digit speeds on public roads. Yeah — dumb.

I still ride on rare occasions but yeah if you don’t take appropriate precautions you can (and many do) pay the price. So I don’t get your point.

I had a bad C2 wreck not long ago in spite of all I could do to avoid it Seat belts may have saved my life. This guy was W-R-O-N-G any way you cut it. And reminds me of the irresponsible man that hit me.

Done here.

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Old 03-24-2018, 11:09 PM
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if the driver was your child, brother, or dad-

the folks damning the driver on this thread would probably not feel the same way as the badasses they have proclaimed to be on this thread.

Sad all the way around to me.
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Originally Posted by tuxnharley
The article said “alcohol appears to have been a factor” - not exactly a definitive or conclusive statement. But hey, lets all trash the guy before the facts are known.
In today’s PC world, the cops are not allowed to say anything definitive about any situation until the investigation is complete, even if the facts are plain to everyone on site. That is why even when the cops catch a criminal red-handed, they are still classified as a “suspect” until convicted.

But I agree it’s a shame he lost his life, even if it was his own doing, but also glad nobody else was injured or killed.
Old 03-25-2018, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rtruman
How many of my friends during the 60s did drag race .
My self included most cars didn't have seat belts .We took these cars all out had a couple beers under our belts .
The speedometers were bouncing off the far end ,the bias tires holding .Luck and God was with many of us .It was part of the corvette Heritage . That's the way it was don't condemn this guy till all the facts are out .At his age he wasn't all out he wouldn't want to wreck his ride .I think the wheel came off .Now a day's 3 beers you are drunk . I lived it saw many guys who were pulled by a fender
going all out My self included would change it for nothing.
Speak for yourself if you did that sort of thing . Not everyone did . Some of us were mature even at that age . Some say that everyone laid rubber at that age too . I should have been so lucky to have the money to buy new tires . It's things like that that make you mature early .
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I'm glad he didn't take anyone with him.
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Originally Posted by bj1k
Speak for yourself if you did that sort of thing . Not everyone did . Some of us were mature even at that age . Some say that everyone laid rubber at that age too . I should have been so lucky to have the money to buy new tires . It's things like that that make you mature early .
Congrats to you for that (seriously, not sarcastic). You are not the only one, but you are in the minority. I, on the other hand, did a lot of very foolish things. You could put a thick stack of $100 bills on a table and I would not repeat some of the crap I did back then. And I'm sure others here would say the same. I consider myself fortunate that I did not injure or kill anybody, myself included.
Old 03-25-2018, 12:38 PM
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Aside from alcohol, seat belts, K.O. safety, social targeting etc, etc.
C2 corvettes are an inherently unsafe vehicle to operate and that goes double for a convertible.
These cars by today’s standards can be equated with riding in and “eggshell” with four wheels.
One should take care and be EXTRA vigilant when operating these cars.

Be safe!
Old 03-25-2018, 01:03 PM
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Which one of you commenting has never had a drink or two before getting behind the wheel. If you haven't you are in a very small minority. I at least tried to research this before making any comment. He looks just like any other usual guy to me. We know no facts other than he wrecked, had no seat belt, and alcohol 'may' have been involved. In today's world I get even more frustrated with drivers using cell phones. They almost always are driving 10-15 mph under the speed limit, roam all over the road, and could care less about others on the road with them.

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I do not drink. Why, because I do not like the taste of it. If I knew what **** taste like, I would say that’s what beer to me taste like. So I guess it’s easy for me to say, no drink and drive. But I say it anyway, due to friends that were involved in drinking crashes. Maybe my answer to this thread seem harsh to some of you. When we were young we all did stupid things but we are older now and there is no reason to get behind the wheel if you have been drinking risking not only your life but others. Not to mention a stiff fine and maybe loss of a job. Now I would bet some of you reading this thread drink beer and probably able to drink 3 or 4 and not be impaired but you are above the legal limits the law allows, which means, you are driving drunk. So the answer for me is simple, don’t do it.
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Originally Posted by ChattanoogaJSB


If you are a rare person who hasn't had too much to drink and driven home then you've done something else on the road. We are all quick to cast stones.
There are a lot of self righteous moralists in the world.

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Originally Posted by AZDoug
There are a lot of self righteous moralists in the world.

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And many of them have posted in this thread.
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loose wheel in the picture could easily be the spare.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink

I rode bikes in Virginia in the 60s without a helmet at triple digit speeds on public roads. Yeah — dumb.

I still ride on rare occasions but yeah if you don’t take appropriate precautions you can (and many do) pay the price. So I don’t get your point.

I had a bad C2 wreck not long ago in spite of all I could do to avoid it Seat belts may have saved my life. This guy was W-R-O-N-G any way you cut it. And reminds me of the irresponsible man that hit me.

Done here.
Now that might just be the most direct, honest, and explanatory statement about the reasons for judgmental opinions in this entire thread!

Transference is a powerful emotion.
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Originally Posted by bj1k
Speak for yourself if you did that sort of thing . Not everyone did . Some of us were mature even at that age . Some say that everyone laid rubber at that age too . I should have been so lucky to have the money to buy new tires . It's things like that that make you mature early .
If I thought about that at 19 maybe I would have gone to Canada ,instead of Vietnam ,I didn't have money to buy tires
Some us take different roads to get to where we are at Mature or not.



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