C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

Tire pressure on reproduction bias ply's?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-15-2018, 08:13 PM
  #1  
Panama 58
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
Panama 58's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2001
Location: Mint Hill North Carolina
Posts: 3,048
Received 611 Likes on 333 Posts
2023 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2022 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified

Default Tire pressure on reproduction bias ply's?

Following the thread on radials tire pressure, what pressure are people running on reproduction bias ply's? Some of us idiots haven't converted over yet.
Old 05-15-2018, 08:34 PM
  #2  
Captain Bud
Burning Brakes
 
Captain Bud's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2014
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 945
Received 317 Likes on 124 Posts
2020 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

I'm running 37PSI on my Coker bias ply on my 1960 and it seems to work fine.
Old 05-15-2018, 08:38 PM
  #3  
dplotkin
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
 
dplotkin's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,532
Received 2,130 Likes on 1,030 Posts
2023 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C2 of Year Finalist (stock)
2015 C2 of the Year Finalist

Default

Originally Posted by Panama 58
Following the thread on radials tire pressure, what pressure are people running on reproduction bias ply's? Some of us idiots haven't converted over yet.

I run 35 in the front.

Dan
Attached Images  
The following users liked this post:
6T5RUSH (05-16-2018)
Old 05-15-2018, 09:54 PM
  #4  
Redbird
Safety Car

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Redbird's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2009
Location: Georgetown TX
Posts: 3,786
Received 573 Likes on 307 Posts
2021 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
C2 of Year Finalist (stock) 2019
2016 C2 of Year Finalist

Default

I have always ran 32 lbs, regardless of bias-ply or radial, for the past 55+ years.
Old 05-16-2018, 02:05 AM
  #5  
SDVette
Safety Car
 
SDVette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2000
Location: Poway CA
Posts: 4,845
Received 1,295 Likes on 560 Posts
2023 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2022 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2021 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C1 of Year Finalist (stock)
2016 C1 of Year Finalist

Default

I have radials on my car, but my '61 owner's manual says 24 lbs cold, 27 warm (city), and 29 warm (highway).

You guys running higher pressures... they must get pretty high when warmed up?
Old 05-16-2018, 05:31 AM
  #6  
phil2302
Melting Slicks
 
phil2302's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2015
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 2,921
Received 1,014 Likes on 578 Posts
Default

Why not just use what the sidewall recommends?
Old 05-16-2018, 05:48 AM
  #7  
DansYellow66
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
DansYellow66's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2003
Location: Central Arkansas
Posts: 15,757
Received 2,621 Likes on 1,953 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SDVette
I have radials on my car, but my '61 owner's manual says 24 lbs cold, 27 warm (city), and 29 warm (highway).

You guys running higher pressures... they must get pretty high when warmed up?
This is pretty much what I remember back in the day - 24 cold minimum all around. I don't remember any recommendations for over 30 psi in that period. Maybe modern bias belted are different. What does the sidewall say.
Old 05-16-2018, 06:09 AM
  #8  
tubman
Racer
 
tubman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: Marathon Florida Breezy Point Minnesota
Posts: 422
Received 52 Likes on 40 Posts

Default

24 and 27 from the manual for my '51 Ford as well. I was surprised and kinda confused by this when I first read it. Then I bought a set of radial WSW so I don't have to worry about it. I think you guys running much higher pressures will be looking a strips of cord down the middle of the tread if you run the tires for a long time.

Last edited by tubman; 05-16-2018 at 06:11 AM.
Old 05-16-2018, 07:25 AM
  #9  
Panama 58
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
 
Panama 58's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2001
Location: Mint Hill North Carolina
Posts: 3,048
Received 611 Likes on 333 Posts
2023 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2022 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified

Default

I have been running 26 all around since I got the car three months ago. With the warm weather here in NC I think this is as high as I plan to go. Thanks for all of the responses.
Old 05-16-2018, 08:30 AM
  #10  
morly1963
Melting Slicks
 
morly1963's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2012
Location: EHT NJ
Posts: 2,724
Received 631 Likes on 419 Posts

Default

Just put air in mine this past weekend 24lb.
Old 05-16-2018, 11:39 AM
  #11  
SWCDuke
Race Director
 
SWCDuke's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2000
Location: Redondo Beach USA
Posts: 12,487
Received 1,974 Likes on 1,188 Posts

Default

Modern repro tires have a DOT- required placard molded into the sidewall that specifies maximum load at maximum COLD pressure, so that's the first thing to look for, and it's probably 35 psi.

Highway operation in hot weather will increase pressure by up to about 6 psi, and that's okay. The maximum pressure placarded on the sidewall is for a COLD tire, and pressure rise from operation is NORMAL.

Hot lapping a big race track will increase TP by 10-12 psi starting from 36 cold, and typical tire burst pressure is on the order of in excess of 100 psi. Tire cord is very strong.

The higher the cold pressure, the less rolling resistance, the lower the rate of temperature/pressure rise, the lower the wear rate, and the crisper the steering response, but you may notice increased high frequency ride harshness.

The OE tire pressure recommendation for my SWC of 24 psi was a joke. It was like driving on slim, so I increased cold TP to 35. There was no max load @ max cold pressure placarded on the sidewalls back then, but that's what my dad, an engineer (BSME U. of Wisconsin, 1927) who was in the Pontiac sales an service organization pre-War and owned a dealership post-War, ran in his cars.

So it's an individual choice between the original 24 psi recommendation and the maximum cold pressure placarded on the sidewall. Experiment and choose what works best for you.

Duke

Last edited by SWCDuke; 05-16-2018 at 12:16 PM.
Old 05-16-2018, 12:03 PM
  #12  
GUSTO14
Le Mans Master
 
GUSTO14's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: eastern NC
Posts: 8,801
Received 1,962 Likes on 1,283 Posts

Default

I would agree with those that suggest 32 psi as a good starting point. (Or at least start with the placard found in the door jam of most new cars.) However, because every car, including similar make and model cars, are different it isn't particularly precise. The following method is a more precise way to determine (or verify) the correct psi to run in your tires and one I've used for years.

First pick a psi to start with and monitor it so that it will remain constant over a period of time. Then, using a tire tread depth gauge, check the tread depth across the face of the tire. At the very least 3 places across the tread, outboard edge, center and inboard edge and write these numbers down. This is the starting point and of course works best on new tires, but can be done really at any time.



Then, at about every 4-5k miles take a new set of readings. If the tread depth remains constant at the outside, center and inboard side of the tire the pressure you are using is good.
If the center starts to wear more than the outboard edges, then you have a bit too much air in the tires. Lower the pressure a couple of pounds and check tread depth again in 4-5k miles.
If the outboard edges are wearing faster then the center your pressure is too low, so add a few pounds and check again in 4-5k miles.

This method is a much more precise way to determine the correct PSI you need to run and takes into account factors such as non stock tire sizes, mods to the car that have changed it's weight from stock and even different tire compounds.

What ever psi you settle on, be sure to write it down and keep it in a handy location so you can refer back to it, such as the glove box with the owners manual.

Good luck... GUSTO
Old 05-16-2018, 12:34 PM
  #13  
Mike67nv
Melting Slicks

 
Mike67nv's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,142
Received 273 Likes on 194 Posts
2018 C2 of Year Finalist
2015 C2 of the Year Finalist

Default

Originally Posted by Panama 58
Following the thread on radials tire pressure, what pressure are people running on reproduction bias ply's? Some of us idiots haven't converted over yet.
Take a look at your tires. My Kelsey Goodyear Power Cushion redlines (manufactured 52nd week of 2015) say “32 PSI MAX. PRESS.” I talked to John Kelsey when I bought the tires and he said they were designed to be inflated to the OEM recommendation (24 psi).

I have tried different pressures and like 24-26 psi. Higher pressures give a harsher ride. I don’t road race my car and I can’t tell any difference in cornering traction at normal speeds.


Last edited by Mike67nv; 05-16-2018 at 12:36 PM.
The following users liked this post:
DansYellow66 (05-17-2018)
Old 05-16-2018, 12:59 PM
  #14  
AZDoug
Race Director
 
AZDoug's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2005
Location: Camp Verde AZ
Posts: 12,434
Received 1,478 Likes on 905 Posts
C1 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019
2017 C1 of Year Finalist

Default

One thing taht hasn't been brought up is tire gauges.

I have oh, maybe 20 gauges, three on-hose type gauges, one digital gauge and 15 or more pencil type gauges.

They all read different, by up to 12 PSIG max spread at 30 PSIG. (readings from 28-40 on the the same tire)

Even the on-hose, service station type, supposed to be good quality plunger gauges are off by 5 PSIG between the two.

How am I supposed to know which ones are correct? Without buying a NSI certified dial pressure gauge for $100 or more and adapting it to a tire valve?

I have been thinking about using the in wheel pressure sensors from my '16 Z06, which has in dash readout of tire pressure, and using that as my standard and tossing any gauge that doesn't match that reading.

Doug
Old 05-16-2018, 02:02 PM
  #15  
SDVette
Safety Car
 
SDVette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2000
Location: Poway CA
Posts: 4,845
Received 1,295 Likes on 560 Posts
2023 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2022 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2021 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C1 of Year Finalist (stock)
2016 C1 of Year Finalist

Default

As you increase the tire pressure, you are increasing tire stiffness while reducing the contact patch with the road.

Racing vs. pleasure cruising: Very different goals.

Last edited by SDVette; 05-16-2018 at 02:03 PM.
Old 05-16-2018, 02:19 PM
  #16  
6T5RUSH
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
 
6T5RUSH's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: Clinton Township MI
Posts: 4,750
Received 119 Likes on 98 Posts
Cruise-In III Veteran

Default

Originally Posted by dplotkin
I run 35 in the front.

Dan
dplotkin,

I know you've heard this before but, THAT Plymouth is just badass!!

:thumbs!

Jim
In God We Trust!

Last edited by 6T5RUSH; 05-16-2018 at 02:20 PM.
Old 05-16-2018, 02:36 PM
  #17  
GTOguy
Race Director
 
GTOguy's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2015
Location: Fresno California
Posts: 17,505
Received 3,443 Likes on 2,113 Posts
Default

26 psi cold front, 28 psi cold rear, on my '61 Corvette with the stock size bias ply tires.

Get notified of new replies

To Tire pressure on reproduction bias ply's?

Old 05-17-2018, 03:45 PM
  #18  
tuxnharley
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tuxnharley's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 13,966
Received 1,939 Likes on 1,185 Posts

Default

The OEM tire pressure recommendations for my ‘67 - still on the original sticker on the inside of my glove compartment door - are 24 psi cold and 30 psi hot on all 4 corners.

Your preference may vary..........

Last edited by tuxnharley; 05-17-2018 at 03:47 PM.
Old 05-17-2018, 04:32 PM
  #19  
MOXIE62
Safety Car
 
MOXIE62's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,573
Received 333 Likes on 276 Posts

Default

30 cold or hot. Max tire pressure for my tire is 32.
Old 05-17-2018, 05:07 PM
  #20  
MikeM
Team Owner
 
MikeM's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes on 1,398 Posts

Default

32 PSI in every bias ply tire on every car I've driven since 1958.

Except Corvair.

For whatever reason, never had a bias ply tire fly apart like some of the brand new steel radials I've had.

Last edited by MikeM; 05-17-2018 at 05:08 PM.



Quick Reply: Tire pressure on reproduction bias ply's?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:44 PM.