Demon cuts off Summit
Le Mans Master
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From: Coming home from Luckenbach Texas
Somebody had mentioned quality control issues at Demon/Barry Grant. Perhaps Summit was tired of all the warranty returns. This is all speculation....
It looks to me like a massive
: match between Summit and BG.
It looks to me like a massive
: match between Summit and BG.
Safety Car
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From: Minnesota
Originally Posted by page62
Somebody had mentioned quality control issues at Demon/Barry Grant. Perhaps Summit was tired of all the warranty returns.
Le Mans Master
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From: Las Vegas - Just stop perpetuating myths please.
Interesting.
Since Demon has taken a big market share from Holley they won't just go away, like now are u gonna buy a Demon or a Holley for nearly the same price? And Summit would have to give up a lot of carb business to Jeg's but i'm sure Summit's pricing, customer base and service sells more for BG than without. Well if there's more than $2 profit to make they'll kiss and make up. Unless BG is still private owned company and BG now has a grudge.
But its all speculation since we don't have accesss to thier agreements and know who stepped on who? And what seems like bad news is really American business weeding out its problems - and usualy results in a better product.
cardo0
But its all speculation since we don't have accesss to thier agreements and know who stepped on who? And what seems like bad news is really American business weeding out its problems - and usualy results in a better product.
cardo0
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A few years back Holley was upset that Barry Grant was selling their carbs in a modified form & taking business away from them. That was a factor in Barry Grant changing their product into an in-house manufacturing process. At the time Summit sided w/ Holley & said they'd discontinue carrying Barry Grant modded Holley carbs. I would guess that this had something to do w/ the power of a large company like Holley w/ so many products to offer & the $$$ to be lost to Summit if that relationship went bad- understandable when you look at it from a business sense. So maybe there's some bad blood remaining from that situation...
Melting Slicks
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From: Wichita, KS
There could be any number of reasons why the 2 companies would fall apart.
1. Summit could be reinventing their business model to be like Wal-Fart. Summit gets the parts for free and only pays for the parts shipped out.
2. Summit is a very slow bill payer.
3. Summit refuses to abide by BG's list prices.
4. BG gets tired of eating the customer returns that Summit's customer service reps agree to.
Any of the items listed above could be the root of the problem, or it could be something as simple as being snubbed on a golf game.
1. Summit could be reinventing their business model to be like Wal-Fart. Summit gets the parts for free and only pays for the parts shipped out.
2. Summit is a very slow bill payer.
3. Summit refuses to abide by BG's list prices.
4. BG gets tired of eating the customer returns that Summit's customer service reps agree to.
Any of the items listed above could be the root of the problem, or it could be something as simple as being snubbed on a golf game.
Safety Car
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From: Florham Park NJ Port Credit Ontario
Originally Posted by 1979toy
There could be any number of reasons why the 2 companies would fall apart.
1. Summit could be reinventing their business model to be like Wal-Fart. Summit gets the parts for free and only pays for the parts shipped out.
2. Summit is a very slow bill payer.
3. Summit refuses to abide by BG's list prices.
4. BG gets tired of eating the customer returns that Summit's customer service reps agree to.
Any of the items listed above could be the root of the problem, or it could be something as simple as being snubbed on a golf game.
1. Summit could be reinventing their business model to be like Wal-Fart. Summit gets the parts for free and only pays for the parts shipped out.
2. Summit is a very slow bill payer.
3. Summit refuses to abide by BG's list prices.
4. BG gets tired of eating the customer returns that Summit's customer service reps agree to.
Any of the items listed above could be the root of the problem, or it could be something as simple as being snubbed on a golf game.
As for the return question....If a vendor is going to "get into bed" with a company the size and power of a Summit, an open RA will most likely have been signed before the first product was shipped.
Melting Slicks
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From: New Cumberland PA
It unfair to speculate about anything in this manner. It seems if a rumor is repeated enough times it sort of takes on it's own truth. Business relationships are similiar to marriage. After they are together for awhile they realize that they are not as compatable as they original thought. One blames the other for this and that, and then the other brings up other issues. Evidenlty, whatever the problems were; they were not able to get get them resolved and continue on. They'll go their seperate ways and do not need others trying to do figure out what their problems were.
Le Mans Master
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From: Las Vegas - Just stop perpetuating myths please.
Right on 1200!
Originally Posted by mandm1200
It unfair to speculate about anything in this manner. It seems if a rumor is repeated enough times it sort of takes on it's own truth. Business relationships are similiar to marriage. After they are together for awhile they realize that they are not as compatable as they original thought. One blames the other for this and that, and then the other brings up other issues. Evidenlty, whatever the problems were; they were not able to get get them resolved and continue on. They'll go their seperate ways and do not need others trying to do figure out what their problems were.
Lets waite for the published news to tell the story. I personaly like both companies and don't want to feed any flames. 
cardo0
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From: Jonesboro Arkansas
Originally Posted by page62
Somebody had mentioned quality control issues at Demon/Barry Grant. Perhaps Summit was tired of all the warranty returns. This is all speculation....
It looks to me like a massive: match between Summit and BG.
It looks to me like a massive
: match between Summit and BG.