Denso Iridium Spark Plugs
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Denso Iridium Spark Plugs
As with most everyone else on this forum...my hobby has turned into an obsession and now an addition. Seems that I'm always looking for the next project to take on or way to add more horsepower to my Vette.
Have been reading about the Iridium spark plugs and doing research... Impressive, but these things can be quite expensive. So, I placed a search on ebay and just let it run for the past several months. Well, I finally won an auction that didn't cost a fortune...
They arrived today... am going to borrow a friend's Gtek and see if they make an objective difference in acceleration/hp. Will probably put these in next week over the holiday.
Have been reading about the Iridium spark plugs and doing research... Impressive, but these things can be quite expensive. So, I placed a search on ebay and just let it run for the past several months. Well, I finally won an auction that didn't cost a fortune...
They arrived today... am going to borrow a friend's Gtek and see if they make an objective difference in acceleration/hp. Will probably put these in next week over the holiday.
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Baseline complete... with NKG T5s
337 hp 387 tq
To start with...I'm pretty impressed with this GTek... thought it would be really off of what the rear wheel dyno recorded a few months ago... only the Hp was off by one with the dyno recording 338 hp.
Will do the spark plug switch sometime this next week.
337 hp 387 tq
To start with...I'm pretty impressed with this GTek... thought it would be really off of what the rear wheel dyno recorded a few months ago... only the Hp was off by one with the dyno recording 338 hp.
Will do the spark plug switch sometime this next week.
Last edited by 80TexasC3; Nov 20, 2005 at 11:27 AM.
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if your standard plugs are in good condition your power increase will be around 0% or so, all these hyped spark plugs, I don't buy it. Regular delcos for me, I side gap them myself...cheaper than all those hyperzidiumconfuctorwhatevers
If there's 1 spark plug that I would buy at high cost, it'd be the champion plugs w/ thermocouplers inside, a direct probe to combustion temperature...I don't know if they are available on the market yet but some race classes have used or are using them.
If there's 1 spark plug that I would buy at high cost, it'd be the champion plugs w/ thermocouplers inside, a direct probe to combustion temperature...I don't know if they are available on the market yet but some race classes have used or are using them.
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
if your standard plugs are in good condition your power increase will be around 0% or so,
Glad to see there's somebody else that can see past the marketing hype.
For this test to be truly objective, the baseline plugs will also need to fresh out of the box too. If there is going to be any field trials, the driver must not know which plugs are installed and you'll have to normalize all readings (baro/temperature/humidity/traction index) back to standard conditions. Have fun
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Iridiums are great for their intended application: OEM installation where the first scheduled maintenance is at 100K miles. Platinums turned out to be marginal going that far so Iridium was introduced (better wear).
Can't see how they could make more power. Either the mixture ignites or it does not. There is no try.
The thinner tip of iridium takes less voltage to throw a spark so it will help if the ignition system is marginal. Copper plugs will do the same as iridium as long as the ignition system is healthy.
Can't see how they could make more power. Either the mixture ignites or it does not. There is no try.
The thinner tip of iridium takes less voltage to throw a spark so it will help if the ignition system is marginal. Copper plugs will do the same as iridium as long as the ignition system is healthy.
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Exactly why I'm "trying" them... Bottom line is that I'm an objective "show me the numbers" guy. Am sick of all of the hype and opinions that these being good or bad...neutral at best. Will let you know what I find...
BTW... the NGKs have about 70 miles on them...should be pretty fresh but I'll assure there aren't any issues when I pull them.
BTW... the NGKs have about 70 miles on them...should be pretty fresh but I'll assure there aren't any issues when I pull them.
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Originally Posted by 80TexasC3
Exactly why I'm "trying" them... Bottom line is that I'm an objective "show me the numbers" guy. Am sick of all of the hype and opinions that these being good or bad...neutral at best. Will let you know what I find...
BTW... the NGKs have about 70 miles on them...should be pretty fresh but I'll assure there aren't any issues when I pull them.
BTW... the NGKs have about 70 miles on them...should be pretty fresh but I'll assure there aren't any issues when I pull them.
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Sounds like an interesting test.. however I'm in the -0% to +0% gain camp myself....the only real benefit these can probably offer is durability..or the ability to operate when the ignition system is faulty....
Beyond that spark is spark...you ignite the mixture or you dont...and a certain air/fuel mixture shouldnt burn hotter or provide greater pressures in the cylinder because of a spark plug....
marketing....
Beyond that spark is spark...you ignite the mixture or you dont...and a certain air/fuel mixture shouldnt burn hotter or provide greater pressures in the cylinder because of a spark plug....
marketing....
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Same camp I've been in and am currently... am just one to want to see facts...Can't find any in all of the research I've done, so...I'll do a test myself.
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All thats really needed for any engine is the proper heat range plugs for the combination and usage. Fancy high dollar pie in the sky plugs are not any better than the proper OEM or equilavant ones. If it wont run on a stock brand it will not run on any other brand.
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Originally Posted by fauxrs2
Beyond that spark is spark...you ignite the mixture or you dont...and a certain air/fuel mixture shouldnt burn hotter or provide greater pressures in the cylinder because of a spark plug....
marketing....
marketing....
when you turn 1 of the systems off you get about a 100rpm decrease. Spark is not spark. If it was just setting the mixture on fire there would be no difference between 1 spark plug or 2.
Also in a turbo charged motor the voltage required to ignite the mixture increases.
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Originally Posted by flood
Actually ....In a Cessna 152 with a dual ignition setup you test both systems by turning one or the other off.
when you turn 1 of the systems off you get about a 100rpm decrease. Spark is not spark. If it was just setting the mixture on fire there would be no difference between 1 spark plug or 2.
when you turn 1 of the systems off you get about a 100rpm decrease. Spark is not spark. If it was just setting the mixture on fire there would be no difference between 1 spark plug or 2.
Also in a turbo charged motor the voltage required to ignite the mixture increases.
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Originally Posted by flood
Actually ....In a Cessna 152 with a dual ignition setup you test both systems by turning one or the other off.
when you turn 1 of the systems off you get about a 100rpm decrease. Spark is not spark. If it was just setting the mixture on fire there would be no difference between 1 spark plug or 2.
when you turn 1 of the systems off you get about a 100rpm decrease. Spark is not spark. If it was just setting the mixture on fire there would be no difference between 1 spark plug or 2.
So that's why you see the rpm drop. Spark is just spark... but 2 sparks in different locations can be better than one.
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Originally Posted by zwede
In a twin plug cylinder you create 2 flame fronts, thus the entire charge completes the burn earlier. The quicker you complete the burn, the more energy is converted into turning the crank (a force pushing on the piston when it's already down doesn't do you any good).
So that's why you see the rpm drop. Spark is just spark... but 2 sparks in different locations can be better than one.
So that's why you see the rpm drop. Spark is just spark... but 2 sparks in different locations can be better than one.
That's entirely true. For additional proof and to carry out my own investigation I tried lighting my grill, at one end with a wooden match, and the other with a Binford 9500 CD electronic zoomy spark lighter.
Guess what? It singed my eyebrows on both sides absolutely EQUALLY!
