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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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Why would you want to remove more clearcoat just to get rid of swirls that will (yes they will) re-appear after a few months ?? When you wash the car, no matter how careful you are, you will have some dust and dirt particles that are trapped in your sponge .. these will scratch the clearcoat.... automated car washes are a lot worse that washing the car at home....
The red turtle wax covers these swirls so you don't see them.... without removing more clearcoat.... and it's only around $5... if you're not happy with the results - fine.... what did you loose ? Maybe $5 but you didn't remove clearcoat to find out that you don't like the result.....
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RedBad1979
Why would you want to remove more clearcoat just to get rid of swirls that will (yes they will) re-appear after a few months ?? When you wash the car, no matter how careful you are, you will have some dust and dirt particles that are trapped in your sponge .. these will scratch the clearcoat.... automated car washes are a lot worse that washing the car at home....
The red turtle wax covers these swirls so you don't see them.... without removing more clearcoat.... and it's only around $5... if you're not happy with the results - fine.... what did you loose ? Maybe $5 but you didn't remove clearcoat to find out that you don't like the result.....
RedBad1979,when "cutting"the clear you are not removing much,alot of restoration shops apply extra coats of clear so the car can be cut several times in the furture.what your doing by cutting is opening the scratch up wider so it doesnt reflect light then you cant see the scratch,not actully sanding to the bottom of the scratch.Dont get me wrong,you are removing clear from the car,but not alot! when done I believe the paint looks much deeper then using products that just fill the scratch.For instance,look at the product your using in its bottle,is it clear?is it clear when it has hazed on your car before you wipe it off?dont you think you will have a slight haze on top of the clearcoat when done filling all those scratches?just my .02.I guess it just depends where you want to go with your car,are you showing it?,this could be the difference between first and second place,is it a daily driver?ect...I guess I should have specified in my last comments,cutting and buffing are for people who want their cars to look higher end.Do not use a sponge when washing!go to cosco and by a bag of their micro fiber towels,I think they are under 8.00 dollars pull the tag off the towel before using,only use these for washing and drying wiping stright and light.Im not saying the scratches will not reappear,but you can keep them to a minimum by this method
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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OK, Heres what I did and I have a very dark blue car so the swirls really show up.

1st: Wash your car with Dawn. This will remove any old wax you may have on the car.

2nd: Use a clay bar - I used Mothers clay bar that came with a spray. Follow the directions, it is really easy. This will take all the contaminants out that are physically in the paint.

3rd: Use Meguiars Paint Cleaner. I used Deep Crystal paint cleaner.

4th: Use a polish. I used Meguiars Deep Crystal polish. This will get rid of all the swirls and scratches.

5th: Use a good wax. I used Meguiars NXT Tech wax. Probably one of the easiest products I have used and I got tons of compliments at all the shows I went to last summer. I walked around and easily had one of the top 3 best looking shines of the show. No swirls at all in bright sun.

Make sure you only use microfiber cloths to dry/ remove wax/ wipe/ etc. The products I listed are cheap and extremely easy to use. Just wipe on and wipe off. Took me the better part of an afternoon to do it all.

You can use the spray (detailing spray) that came with the clay bar between washes to touch it up.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stepinup
RedBad1979,when "cutting"the clear you are not removing much,alot of restoration shops apply extra coats of clear so the car can be cut several times in the furture.what your doing by cutting is opening the scratch up wider so it doesnt reflect light then you cant see the scratch,not actully sanding to the bottom of the scratch.Dont get me wrong,you are removing clear from the car,but not alot! when done I believe the paint looks much deeper then using products that just fill the scratch.For instance,look at the product your using in its bottle,is it clear?is it clear when it has hazed on your car before you wipe it off?dont you think you will have a slight haze on top of the clearcoat when done filling all those scratches?just my .02.I guess it just depends where you want to go with your car,are you showing it?,this could be the difference between first and second place,is it a daily driver?ect...I guess I should have specified in my last comments,cutting and buffing are for people who want their cars to look higher end.Do not use a sponge when washing!go to cosco and by a bag of their micro fiber towels,I think they are under 8.00 dollars pull the tag off the towel before using,only use these for washing and drying wiping stright and light.Im not saying the scratches will not reappear,but you can keep them to a minimum by this method
OK, if it's a show car I agree with all of the above on my daily driver I just keep filling the scratches and nicks with red wax .... my C3 needs a paint job anyways, no polish or wax can help here, only stripper and sandpaper
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Once you get the swirls removed or to not get anymore is to use 2 wash buckets--1 for soapy water and the other for rinse--NEVER NEVER put your soap rag,mit whatever back into the soap without rinsing several times in the rinse bucket --will save alot of future swirls.

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