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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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I managed to get the stat housing for my '79 on and not leaking !! I topped it off with coolant and ran it and all seemed well. I have added a thermostat (195 F) in the housing,which was not there when I bought it back in August. Today I took it for a spin and after I parked and stopped the engine the overflow bottle was "boiling". Is this massive air/vacuum being generated or is it legitimately way too hot? It was running in the normal operating range when I was driving?

Otherwise all is well...60 degrees and sunny in central jersey in January is OK by me.

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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Your thermostat is WAY to high. Your mtotor should never be at 195 degrees.
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Your thermostat is WAY to high. Your mtotor should never be at 195 degrees.

What's recommended? 180 F?
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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What's recommended? 180 F?
195 degree thermostat is fine. Bubbling in the overflow usually means that the engine is overheating, possibly due to air pockets in the system. Also you need to be sure the radiator cap is good, holding 15 psi.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Like he said, 195 is fine and check your radiator cap.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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You guys a 79 is recirculating. It is normal. It lets the hot water expand and when the radiator cools it pulls it back in. Make sure you have the right cap also.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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You could possibly have a blown head gasket. It doesn't take much for hot exhaust gases to find its way into the radiator.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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You guys a 79 is recirculating. It is normal. It lets the hot water expand and when the radiator cools it pulls it back in. Make sure you have the right cap also.
I'll check it out...thanks to all
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On a 79 you have to make sure there is water in the recirculating tank. When colding the radiator will pull air from the tank instead of liquid.

Over the years, alot of owners and shop would replace the caps with an over-heat style and usually kill the system. Check your manual for operating temp range of the radiator cap.

Also, buy the thermostat that has the bleed hole in it. It's usually about $2 more. Check your electric fan in the front and make sure it's working. I believe all 79's had them. And also check to make sure your radiator seals are in place.
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The only thermostat listing in the GM parts book for a 1979 is 195*. The auxiliary electric fan was an option in 1979 so do not be dismayed if you do not find one.

I suspect that you did not fill the coolant tank to the COLD mark. Thus you are getting coolant at engine temps and under 15psi pressure coming over from the rad. That can certainly be above 212*F. If the coolant tank is filled to the proper level the relatively cool fluid in it will mix with the engine spillover and prevent boiling.
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195 degree thermostat is fine. Bubbling in the overflow usually means that the engine is overheating, possibly due to air pockets in the system. Also you need to be sure the radiator cap is good, holding 15 psi.
How does one purge the air from the radiator? Is it kosher to start the car with the cap off of the radiator or should purging happen by taking the cap off of the overflow bottle?

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Originally Posted by paul67
The only thermostat listing in the GM parts book for a 1979 is 195*. The auxiliary electric fan was an option in 1979 so do not be dismayed if you do not find one.

I suspect that you did not fill the coolant tank to the COLD mark. Thus you are getting coolant at engine temps and under 15psi pressure coming over from the rad. That can certainly be above 212*F. If the coolant tank is filled to the proper level the relatively cool fluid in it will mix with the engine spillover and prevent boiling.
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Originally Posted by Wuttin
How does one purge the air from the radiator? Is it kosher to start the car with the cap off of the radiator or should purging happen by taking the cap off of the overflow bottle?

Thanks,
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Yes. Start with the level in the radiator about 3 inches down below the filler neck. Run the vehicle at idle or a little above (<1,000 rpm). It will take a while, but when the thermostat opens, you'll see the flow thru the core. Now there are no major air pockets, the upper hose will be hot. Fill the radiator to the top, with the engine running. Cap the radiator, fill the overflow bottle to about 1/3 full. Done. Re-check the overflow bottle the next morning, fill to cold line.
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Where is that disclaimer when we need it? Before removing the radiator cap make sure the engine is entirely cooled off. Maybe let it sit overnight. Never remove the radiator cap when engine is hot, it can still be hot an hour after you turn it off There, is that disclaiming enough? Should be ok to start the engine with the cap off.
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Originally Posted by PRNDL
Where is that disclaimer when we need it? Before removing the radiator cap make sure the engine is entirely cooled off. Maybe let it sit overnight. Never remove the radiator cap when engine is hot, it can still be hot an hour after you turn it off There, is that disclaiming enough? Should be ok to start the engine with the cap off.
All radiator caps have that printed on them...I think... If it's too hot to keep your hand on it, don't remove it 'till it cools off.
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Thanks to all...hopefully the Jersey weather will continue to cooperate and I can get it done.

Enjoy,
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Originally Posted by paul67
The auxiliary electric fan was an option in 1979 so do not be dismayed if you do not find one.
I do have an electric fan but I've never seen it moving. I assume this is the relatively thick plastic unit that is sitting in front of the radiator.

Is there an easy way to test it so I can make sure it is working?
When should I expect it to kick on?

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