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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Is the difference between the stock steering box and Steeroids like night and day?

Let me know the good and bad, also which company is the best to buy from.

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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I had rebuilt my stock steering components with the exception of the steering box. My car steered pretty good at this point. Someone had a Steeroids setup from a project that they were backing out of. I bought it because I thought it had to be better than the stock setup. I took all of my stock steering stuff off and it is setting in a box in the garage. I got the Steeroids installed and the car is like it is riding on rails now. You think about which direction you want to go and it goes. I do not have to chase the car all over the road now. It drives a straight line and does not wander. I am well pleased with my purchase. The hardest part about the install is the linkage from the steering column to the rack. It has two sets of universals and a heim joint that have to be aligned or the setup gets in a bit of a bind. I had to tinker with that for a little while but it is good now.

Some on here have made their own setups that seem to be working good. One I can think of off the top of my head is Budman78. Got to have some fabricating skills and a welder to do it like he did though.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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Drives on rails. Tracks perfect down the highway with little adjustments. Like a new car.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Thanks Eddie.

I think I'm convinced enough to take the plunge.

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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What is a steeroid's set up?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Rack and Pinion for C3 Corvettes.
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Rack and Pinion for C3 Corvettes.
Where can i get that set up?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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I have heard mixed bag results. Usually it is good things that you hear, but there may be a downside:

It seems the OEM power steering pump puts out possibly too much hydraulic pressure, and the steeroids system steering feels overpowered. It gives the sensation that you have little feedback from the road or the steering wheel has no weight on it.

I dont have this installed and can only go on what I have seen posted here on the subject.

It may have spawned a second camp that looks for steering improvements by way of the jeep steering box conversion instead of the steeroids option.

Any thoughts on this?

Brent...
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Would i need the column that is not included?
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Originally Posted by AGVI
Is the difference between the stock steering box and Steeroids like night and day?

Let me know the good and bad, also which company is the best to buy from.

TIA, Les
I recently installed mine. The installation was relatively easy and straightforward, with the exception of the linkage adjustments.

While I was doing it, I also put in new poly bushings in the upper and lower control arms, even though the ones in them were only a few years old.

I did not get the WOW factor I was hoping for. Granted, the only real slop I have in the steering now is due to the column support bearings that I didn't replace. (When I realized I should replace them, the dealer couldn't get them fast enough so I skipped them.)

My stock steering wasn't as bad as some, but it did have a lot of accumulated slop from all the moving pieces, and a worn steering box.

Even with all the money and time spent, I still get a crisper steering response with my daily driver, a 2005 Chevy Colorado, or my wife's 04 Civic!

I guess I like it overall, but I just get the feeling that I should have got a bigger "WOW" factor with all the money I spent on it.
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the install is ok, the brackets however are flimsy as hell...with the car on it's wheels and steering left to right as fast as possible you can see the input shaft move about half an inch.....not good IMO
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the install is ok, the brackets however are flimsy as hell...with the car on it's wheels and steering left to right as fast as possible you can see the input shaft move about half an inch.....not good IMO
How would you solve that problem?
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I recently installed mine. The installation was relatively easy and straightforward, with the exception of the linkage adjustments.

While I was doing it, I also put in new poly bushings in the upper and lower control arms, even though the ones in them were only a few years old.

I did not get the WOW factor I was hoping for. Granted, the only real slop I have in the steering now is due to the column support bearings that I didn't replace. (When I realized I should replace them, the dealer couldn't get them fast enough so I skipped them.)

My stock steering wasn't as bad as some, but it did have a lot of accumulated slop from all the moving pieces, and a worn steering box.

Even with all the money and time spent, I still get a crisper steering response with my daily driver, a 2005 Chevy Colorado, or my wife's 04 Civic!

I guess I like it overall, but I just get the feeling that I should have got a bigger "WOW" factor with all the money I spent on it.
Isn't the set-up out of a 92 Grand Prix or something? You're not about to get excellent road feel out of a car like that...

I think our cars get decent feedback through the wheel, actually, it's just the lack of precision that's the problem.
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Technically, that's not the "Steeroids" setup. Steeroids is at www.speeddirect.com
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Is the difference between the stock steering box and Steeroids like night and day?

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yes it is ...only bad thing is the turning radius is increased and buy direct from the manufacture so if you get into an accident they have it on record you got the parts from them and they will go easier on you for repalcement parts
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Technically, that's not the "Steeroids" setup. Steeroids is at www.speeddirect.com
Correct. The steeroids setup is a center take off rack that has tie rods that are the correct length for the Corvette. The flaming river rack is an end take off rack that has been adapted to the Corvette. I don't know of anyone that has actually installed one of the flaming river racks.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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yes it is ...only bad thing is the turning radius is increased and buy direct from the manufacture so if you get into an accident they have it on record you got the parts from them and they will go easier on you for repalcement parts
What was the big difference when you installed your steeroids?

I purchased and installed mine based on comments such as yours, but after installing it, I'm disappointed with it. I like it, but I just don't feel that it's that much better.

I'm not sure how much the handling can be affected by the steeroids, since isn't tracking more a function of the front end geometry? The steeroids doesn't really change any geometry. I think that it's just doing a better job of isolating me from what the front end is trying to do.

Not that that's neccesarily a bad thing.

I often wonder if all the raving about the steeroids is largely due in part to a greater emphasis on front end alignment/geometry after the steeroids install. Just my .02, and certainly not a slam towards you.
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How would you solve that problem?
Sh!tcan the brackets that came with it and make new ones from steel double the thickness...but if you're doing that you can piece it together yourself. The plans are out there (dimensions for the 2 brackets), then you buy 2 5/8 threaded sleeves from speedwaymotors (someone here'll know the length) and 2 LH and 2 RH rod ends (the kit comes with cheapo economy rod ends, not even some quality aurora or FKs...I would have expected that for 1400+$) and an oversized 5/8 bearing to support the shaft. Add some pressure and return hoses, 2 steering u joints (either the stainless flaming river ones that come with the kit or some ordinary steel ones from boese or sweet if you don't care about bling )....if you are piecing it together I would also change the input shaft. The kit comes with a double d shaft. The problem is, you can't clock it. If you get a splined section you can use a splined joint on the steering box side and a weld on on the rack side. That way you can still remove the steeringcolumn side and remove the support bearing but most important, you will be able to clock the shaft on the shaft itself and not on the steering column.
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There is an article in Chevy hp magazine that talks about how much bumpsteer is in our cars and that the steeriods helps out a bit in the geometry were it moves the inner tierod pickup points inboard,givingyou the ability to adjust the height at the outer tierod to tune the bump.What they mean is your inner tierod should be were your lower control arm bushings pivot point is and run along the lower A/arm and outer tierod with lower balljoint.
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