Envy?

 

i think all stock to stock i might be able to hang right with him,
NO ENVEY........... MEEEEEP MMMMEEEEEEEEP !!
ZIXXX PACKER

 

So you think that? I don't know, gears to gears. A 440, sixpack vs a 427, sixpack. Seems cubes wins this time. I know the weight plays a lot into this...but those 440s are frig'n amazing.

 

I'm tired. but didn't the 427 L-88 run in the 11's? I remember reading the 12's at first but once a rod mag played with it for a few days they were able to get the hook figured out and ran a few high 11's.
-P

 

In the eighties my best friend had a 1969 GTX 440 HP, Pistol Grip Shifter, 18 spline 4speed, Dana 60. Great car it could not stop!

 

WEIGHT, AERODYNAMICS, GEARS, & DRIVER all contribute !!

MEEEEEEEEP MMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEP,
mover over i'm comin through

ZIXXX PACKER

 

I dont think you really want my thoughts on this car. If your talking a real L88 then he had better tape his doors shut because a L88 would litterly blow them off including the paint. In fact most high hp Vettes would do the same. I would leave the L88 home and save some gas. A good Camaro would do the same

 

Since were bench racing here. Granted, those 440-6 B bodies were quicker than most muscle cars, but they weren't the holy grail. One of the rich guys in high school had a orange '69 440-6 Road Runner. I used to tease him all the time if he needed help to check his oil (take the hood off) . Anyway he and another classmate that had a brand new '70 Nova 396/375 squared off on Woodward a few times one night and they ended up going out to M59 for more space. Both were 4 speed cars and ran a couple times, neither driver could declare a win. I don't remember the rear ratios. One of the other classmates that followed had a '64 Chevy 409 and the Road runner would take him by a length at around 95 mph.
My driving impressions of that Road Runner at 17 were, the door windows rattled when they were down, the steering was very vague compared to a GM or Ford it constantly needed correcting. The interior was dull and no fun and it was loud inside the car. But it was fast and felt good doing it. It had a feeling that it would take a lot to break it. It also could not stop. I drove the Nova several times, when the owner lost his license and that car was much nicer to drive and it could stop. But the Muncie shifter made it more difficult to leave your right foot planted between gears compared to the Mopar. Good memories.

 

Man that just makes me wish I were alive when all that fun was going down. I missed a lot cause my parents didn't get it on faster...

 

yeah but then you would be an old fart now! You could restore one of those old Mopars into a much better quality car today, than when it rolled off the assembly line.
My father in law worked at Dodge Main where the winged cars were built. His favorite story is at the end of the '70 model year there were a couple hundred (could be an exageration) Daytona's and Superbird's sitting in the yard that dealers did not want and employees could buy them for $2000 each. No, he didn't buy one.

 

Wow. Unbelieveable. I might have a chance to get an old SuperBird, a '70 I think, for under $500.

 

Wasn't that the story with all mopars? I cousin has a 70 340 sixpak TA challenger and he always told me the mopars would be rattle boxes and had no quality to them. Oh and I was just a young lad in the 70s and remember my brothers and cousins going racing and watching all the mussel cars on the streets. That is how I fell in love with them.

Late

 

I bought my 69 Roadrunner new and paid $2588...kept it six years...no rattles...383 4 speed hurst...it was a lean,light no frills bench seat muscle car...just wish my wife would have let me get the 426 Hemi option...$700/no engine warranty...

Traded it in for a 1973 1 ton 454 Chev truck/camper to haul the kids camping in 1975..
Old Fart....

 

Here it is when we hauled a borrowed Starcraft tent trailer on a road trip.....check the "sport mirrors"....

 

I see the "For Sale" sign already on the dash. I wonder how many guys gave up their "first true love" for their families? It seems we never get credit for these sacrifices. Besides, it was just an old car, right.
-P

 

Meep Meep. May it rest in pieces.

 

we could make it corvette related by doing the manual versus auto debate again looks like the auto won

 

Road Atlas on dash....actually..the RR was ok for kids at the time...2 door/rear seat..we often went tent camping out of that car with the boys...big trunk...

 

I can answer that. When we got engaged I had 4 toys and a dealer demo. The '68 vert paid for a new garage and driveway (shown below), the 66 GTO paid for the ring, The '70 El Camino paid for the reception and she let me keep the '69 Firebird. My wife brought a '75 Cordoba into my life (without corinthian leather). Whoopee! But, I wouldn't have had so much fun with cars all these years without her. So it's been worth it. That black part leaning oagainst the garage wall is a brand new SS hood for the El Camino.

 

They were good bare bones muscle cars that served their purpose.They gave the people want they wanted...good straight line perfomance..They sold great as well...Hemmings Muscle Machines has an article about a 1970 Super Bee..how it was a sales flop even though it was a great looking and decent perfoming car much like the Road Runner.Plymouth struck first I guess..