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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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Default The $300 Stereo/CD upgrade.

The Goal was to upgrage the stock stereo to a "good" CD player and new speakers, while saving the original bezel, all for under 300 bucks.
The original kick panels, being available as after market reproductions, were used in the install to keep costs down.

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I wanted to upgrade my 'Vette, while keeping costs down. (I got some cool CDs that will need to be played, once I complete the 'Vette upgrades- (esp. Barracuda, by Heart) Well, this is a serious situation.)

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What I needed was a package to accomplish this goal. These had to be quality componants, and originality could not be sacrificed, not acceptable.


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Reproduction Bezel: cost only $115, So I can save my original Bezel,, Corvette Central:



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http://www.millionbuy.com/aifp306.html

Head Unit" $99,
I went to Circiut City and Listened to the 99-119 dollar units. the sony was tinny, the Pioneer really kicks ykw for the price, and looks good too. 25W a channel RMS. Pretty good in real world situations.




The Speakers: $49, they say 160W real big on the box,, but I geuss that's just when the sun spot are alligned correctly, because in the specs, and in smaller print on the box, they say 30W -continous,, that's RMS folks or Root mean square,, or real continous power, minute to minute. Perfect for the 25W a channel Pioneer dash unit.






Add 50' of 16 gauge speaker wire from Radio Shack at 10 bucks and 20 "red" butt splices from autozone at 2.99 for 10 and you get

115+99+49+15+10+6= $299. I made my target.

the Install:

Pulled the E-brake cover, then the shift consol and pulled the Enviromental switch. Cleaned it up really good, esp the Fan switch, which I ran WD 40 through 4 times as I worked the switch back and forth to get my fan to work on high speed again

One other thing to note, I noticed that on the back of the Hand Brake consul there is a bolt that goes through to inside of the rear three compartments space, below the "glove box" or tic tac case, as I like to call it. Mine was previously removed. It seems possible to remove the shift consol w/o removing the brake consol, and I would recomend it, unless your a gluton for punishment.


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Pulled the gauge bezel and pulled the old radio (free the radio from the bezel so you can remove the bezel at first). Be very carefull here if you have a 60s or early to mid 70s Car, as the OIL PRESSURE GUAGE USES A THIN PLASTIC FLEXABLE OIL TUBE FROM THE ENGINE. DO NOT BREAK OR KINK IT!!!

Ran the speaker wire and then used my handy red handle stripper/crimp tool the crimp the red butt splices to the speaker wires and the connector of the Pioneer head unit, and then ran a 14 gauge wire to the "Batt" terminal on the fuse box for the constant power it requires, butt spliced that in along with the ground (requires a Blue, larger butt splice) and the yellow for detection on: aka ACC. Done with the head unit:





Decided to reuse and not save the kick panels, they are widely available in correct color and my vette isn't an L88.

Measured the maximum height of the body mount hole and tranfered it to the kick panel with a sharpie. Cut the holes with a Dremmel tool disk below this line and centered, one small cut at a time and then smoothed the hole out with a sheet rock knife, Test fit the speakers, and THEN drilled the holes:







Installed the Speakers,, you have to install the kick panels first, then put the speakers in.








All that needs to be done is plug in the Head Unit and mount the kick panels. I also ran the rear speaker wires, Now, while the Concol is appart and will run a line level stub and bring out the blue controll wire, while it's appart. This Is Fun! Waiting on the Bezel with my Dremel tool, but it's plug and play, Now.

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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I just purchased a new bezel on ebay for 70.00. I have a 77 so like you im gonna cut my kicks and try to put a set of 6 x 9 in the rear for now. I think im going with the Alpine head unit. It controls the ipod and then in time ill get a sub and amp...... Good luck with your set up... More pics We love lics
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Would it look awful to match the color and paint the new speaker screan to match the kick panels or is it better to just go with the factory finish of the black speakers? Just curious for others' opinions.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Looks like what you showed for a radio is the modern "1 DIN" height radio; the bezel on the other hand was a reproduction stock bezel which would require a dremel tool to cut out where the posts and ***** went in. Guess you didn't realize that for around the same $115.00 you could have gotten a reproduction bezel with the "1 DIN" opening already cut out. I bought all the parts a year ago and finally installed the radio plus sound bridge. The bridge costs around $199.00 so my install was a little more expensive if you include new front speakers, bezel and Kenwood radio. I'll post some pics once I move them off my home system onto Photobucket.
Just check on Photobucket, Imove a pic of the sound bridge already - here is what it looks like installed:



I went with the Bridge because I did not have the back speaker grills, in retrospect I guess I should have looked harder for them at the time. This Bridge rides high enough on the back panel to still allow room for my T-Tops.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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nice work. that should sound great. I don't think you need an amp or sub in a small interior like ours to have good stereo sound.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishJoker
Looks like what you showed for a radio is the modern "1 DIN" height radio; the bezel on the other hand was a reproduction stock bezel which would require a dremel tool to cut out where the posts and ***** went in. Guess you didn't realize that for around the same $115.00 you could have gotten a reproduction bezel with the "1 DIN" opening already cut out.
The repop bezels with the DIN opening are quite a bit more than that...
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishJoker
Looks like what you showed for a radio is the modern "1 DIN" height radio; the bezel on the other hand was a reproduction stock bezel which would require a dremel tool to cut out where the posts and ***** went in. Guess you didn't realize that for around the same $115.00 you could have gotten a reproduction bezel with the "1 DIN" opening already cut out.

Yes, I did relize that, butr 115 is not 200. Check the title of the post as for why i didn't use a precut one. My dremel awaits.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ptroxx
I just purchased a new bezel on ebay for 70.00. I have a 77 so like you im gonna cut my kicks and try to put a set of 6 x 9 in the rear for now. I think im going with the Alpine head unit. It controls the ipod and then in time ill get a sub and amp...... Good luck with your set up... More pics We love lics

Just a suggestion. When planning the rear speakers I would suggest 6.5" round speakers instead of oval 6x9" speakers. Round always sound better and are easier to install.

Oh, and that repro bezel was about $40 more than it needed to be.
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I did this last year, with Polk speakers and Blaupunkt head unit, last year because my better half was complaining about the sound quality. It is nice to have the iPod input, but the install really made me realize I how much more I enjoy working on performance upgrades rather than audio.
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Just a suggestion. When planning the rear speakers I would suggest 6.5" round speakers instead of oval 6x9" speakers. Round always sound better and are easier to install.

Oh, and that repro bezel was about $40 more than it needed to be.

I have been looking for a while now and 55 was the cheapest i could find. total was 70 inc shipping..
Now on the rear speakers what is the best way to mount to 6 1/2 ?? any pics ??
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ptroxx
I have been looking for a while now and 55 was the cheapest i could find. total was 70 inc shipping..
Now on the rear speakers what is the best way to mount to 6 1/2 ?? any pics ??

Well that all depends. You can make some panels that close the gap between the rear bulkhead and the wheel wells and install the speakers in those. Or, you can make a box that houses both of them.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
that repro bezel was about $40 more than it needed to be.
Not for the 68 - 76s, unless you have a source I don't know about, very likely, as I just did a quick E-bay and internet search. ? Tell me where I can get one for cheap, and I'll send this one back, once it shows up. C.
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Originally Posted by RunningMan373
Not for the 68 - 76s, unless you have a source I don't know about, very likely, as I just did a quick E-bay and internet search. ? Tell me where I can get one for cheap, and I'll send this one back, once it shows up. C.

Oh for '77. For some reason I was thinking you had a '73. I guess it was you're name with the 373.
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Oh for '77. For some reason I was thinking you had a '73. I guess it was you're name with the 373.
well... his is a '73 (according to his profile)...
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These speakers seem to have very small magnets, I found it almost impossible to install 6.5" speakers in the kickpanels - I installed my speakers in the doors instead and still had to use a 1" spacer ring. I did not want to use a spacer ring on the kickpanel because I have a 5spd and a clutch pedal .... probably no big deal if you have a auto trans and no clutch....
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Originally Posted by MYBAD79
These speakers seem to have very small magnets, I found it almost impossible to install 6.5" speakers in the kickpanels - I installed my speakers in the doors instead and still had to use a 1" spacer ring. I did not want to use a spacer ring on the kickpanel because I have a 5spd and a clutch pedal .... probably no big deal if you have a auto trans and no clutch....

Here are some CDT 6.5" speakers in kick panels. They had a very large magnet.


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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
The repop bezels with the DIN opening are quite a bit more than that...
Thats what I thought too...Like about $200 at Willcox?
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Oh for '77. For some reason I was thinking you had a '73. I guess it was you're name with the 373.
No, it's for a '73. do you have a source for inexpensive bezels? Better yet, inexpensive 1din bezels.

DB, that install looks good. Did you cut the existing kick panels or use the pre-shaped ones on that install?

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Originally Posted by MYBAD79
These speakers seem to have very small magnets, I found it almost impossible to install 6.5" speakers in the kickpanels - I installed my speakers in the doors instead and still had to use a 1" spacer ring. I did not want to use a spacer ring on the kickpanel because I have a 5spd and a clutch pedal .... probably no big deal if you have a auto trans and no clutch....

I had no problem,, just put them in today. There seemed to be plenty of space back there. Don't know what may have caused your clearance problem,, were they too wide in diameter? well, they're in your are in the doors now, anyhow. Probably a better place for them anyhow.

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One other thing to note, peoples,, I noticed that on the back of the Hand Brake consul there is a bolt that goes through to inside of the rear three compartments space, below the "glove box" or tic tac case, as I like to call it. Mine was previously removed. It seems possible to remove the shift consol w/o removing the brake consol, and I would recomend it, unless your a gluton for punishment. C.
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