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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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My ammeter gauge is acting very "jumpy".

It stays above zero, but it jumps and the headlights and dash lights flicker as well at idle. Is this an alternator problem or something else?

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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Check your ground, sounds like a bad connection
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Could be a grounding problem, but more likely a voltage regulation problem (internal to alternator).
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Update-it only seems to happen when the headlights are on.
When they are off, it indicates steady charging.
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The problem happens when you're drawing significant current. So, it's either a grounding problem....or a voltage regulator problem.
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Could be a grounding problem, but more likely a voltage regulation problem (internal to alternator).
Sounds like the voltage regulator.
Mine did this until I replaced the alternator.
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If it is a grounding problem, how do you go about checking it?

The black wire from the alternator is the ground, and it heads into the wire harness. Where do I go about looking for the actual place where it is supposed to be grounded to?
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I have a thread saved on my other computer that will be of great help when I get to the house I will post it. I cant find it again with just a search...
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I have a thread saved on my other computer that will be of great help when I get to the house I will post it. I cant find it again with just a search...
That would be a big help. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by seacliffe301
Sounds like the voltage regulator.
Mine did this until I replaced the alternator.


Mine too... pull it, bring it to AutoZone, and they will test it for free.
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Another forum member made this up (cant remember who) so I can't take any credit, but this should help find your grounds. Just use a meter and check continuity from the wire to a good ground connection, if you are not sure run a jumper wire from your battery ground. I must not have saved the thread, but the diagram was what you need from it. Your year may be different but this should be close.
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Thanks for the diagram....it should help.

I took the alternator in to be tested and it tested OK, so it must be a ground somewhere.

I'll start looking.....
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Glad to know thats helping. Here is a little better copy so you can read it
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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replace your ground from your battery to the frame..... it's probably corrodid by now....... my ground was bad and i got a surge in the system and burned up a few things....... nothing major...but was a ground issue...

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Does it do this at a low idle? Does it flicker to the lope of the cam? You might not have a problem at all. You are probably just not turning enough RPM's to recharge the battery.

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It does do it at low idle, but I think I have a stock cam, so I assume it shouldn't be flickering as much as it does....enough to see the headlights noticeably flicker.

Going to look into the battery ground cable and other grounds as soon as I get a chance.
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I change both the Battery to frame and the frame to motor cables,, mine were pretty badly coroded, and my cars not that bad, corrosion wise. You sould get the correct cables,, but in a pinch you can use similar lenght battery cables from any parts house,, front post and flat with a hole for the batt to frame, and two flats for engine to frame. prepare surface with sand paper to good shny metal and use electrical (light bulb) grease on the joint and torque down well.

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Glad to know thats helping. Here is a little better copy so you can read it
Very instructive. So the Gauge is in parrallel with the red main power wire from the starter, pretty cool. whats the resistance accross the guage, anyway? anybody ever measure it?

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Don't know, it will be very low. The gauge probably goes full deflection with 30 mv or something. Been a long time since I dug that deep.
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A length of wire in the ammeter circuit acts as a "shunt" resistance, so don't alter the wiring leading to it.
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New update.....car wouldn't start tonight. Battery was dead.

When I hooked it up to my charger it indicated a full charge in less than 2 minutes......which leads me to believe my battery is toast.

Boosted the car and got it started after quite a few tries.

I'll take the battery in for testing tomorrow but I am quite sure it is at least part of the problem.
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