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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Please look at these two pics and let me know if you think the chrome on this '70 could be lined up this awkwardly form the factory. The passenger side looks too crooked to me but I haven't seen enough to know.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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That is a tough place. Many are not aligned very well, and were not from the factory. The right looks worse than the left. Some shimming might make it better.
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Originally Posted by markdtn
That is a tough place. Many are not aligned very well, and were not from the factory. The right looks worse than the left. Some shimming might make it better.
mine are off a bit as well !!!

uncertain how to bubba it up ?

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When I put my car back to together after stipping it and having it painted I spent I think about 3 hours getting the bumper and the grills lined up. When I took the car apart there were no shims a the end of the bumpers once I added these I found that the bumper holes did not line up correctly with the bumper and put a lot of stress on the front bumper itself. I religned the holes put the shims in and adjusted the shims until the ends of the bumper had even gaps and the center line matched the center line of the car. The grills also had to be adjusted but as we all know these cars were never perfect. Have fun, spend the time and in the end it will be worth it.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by brdd
Here's mine...........


The inner grill brackets are missing on yours like mine. (holes with no screws) With these in place, you can shim them to align the grills properly. Most vendors have them for around $24 a pair.
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The inner grill brackets are missing on yours like mine. (holes with no screws) With these in place, you can shim them to align the grills properly. Most vendors have them for around $24 a pair.
Hows that work? The outer grills are in a fixed poistion therefore adding the bracket for the 'empty screw hole' screw shouldnt make a difference. I can see moving the 'bumperettes' around but not the outer grills.
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Hows that work? The outer grills are in a fixed poistion therefore adding the bracket for the 'empty screw hole' screw shouldnt make a difference. I can see moving the 'bumperettes' around but not the outer grills.
The grill inner bracket bolts to the bracket welded to the bumper, and goes behind the grill. Here's a page from my 70 AIM, you'll see what I'm referring to.

When you attach the inner bracket to the bumper shim with washers to achieve the desired height when you screw the grill to it, so the bottom of the grill lines up with the bumperettes at the bottom. If you grab the grill, there's some vertical flex there which will allow this adjustment.
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Seems like this is a common problem... So I should NOT consider this a "red flag" for prior accident damage?
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Seems like this is a common problem... So I should NOT consider this a "red flag" for prior accident damage?
Who knows. Why are the brackets missing in the first place? That's my question. I know there was minor front end damage to mine so I believe thats why my grills were replaced and the brackets were either damaged or forgotten.
The thing is you want these to keep the grills rigid and from bouncing when you go over bumps because the lower valence will start to crack over time where the lower grill screws are.
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Originally Posted by gccch
Seems like this is a common problem... So I should NOT consider this a "red flag" for prior accident damage?
Yes, common problem/issue. Probably 1 of many reasons that chrome bumpers went away besides impact resistance.
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Getting the grillework to line up is not a big problem, if you have the original hardware. If you don't, you can buy it...or you can just make the brackets out of flatstock (stainless would be best). The grille alignment isn't a very good indicator of a prior wreck; frame/glasswork is better to find that. If the grillework is in good shape (chrome, not damaged or bent), you are way ahead of the game.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GD70
Who knows. Why are the brackets missing in the first place? That's my question. I know there was minor front end damage to mine so I believe thats why my grills were replaced and the brackets were either damaged or forgotten.
The thing is you want these to keep the grills rigid and from bouncing when you go over bumps because the lower valence will start to crack over time where the lower grill screws are.
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I don't know of any missing brackets. I'll have to check to be sure, but was really trying to understand if this is normal... seems so from the replies. I will have to check it closely. The diagram will be very helpful.
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gccch,
The fit from the factory was not great at all, but, I think yours can be improved. I've found that having everything loose, then using shims to get things into position and alignment, and then tightening the screws, bolts and nuts, works. I was told not to use the hardware to move the bumpers and grilles into proper position because this leads to the sound only cracking fiberglass makes, and you get no hint that its coming.
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Originally Posted by GD70
The grill inner bracket bolts to the bracket welded to the bumper, and goes behind the grill. Here's a page from my 70 AIM, you'll see what I'm referring to.

When you attach the inner bracket to the bumper shim with washers to achieve the desired height when you screw the grill to it, so the bottom of the grill lines up with the bumperettes at the bottom. If you grab the grill, there's some vertical flex there which will allow this adjustment.
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Ok....but, the grill is held in a fixed position by the lower 3 mounting studs. The only way to line up the chrome would be to adjust the bumperettes.

Thats not a '70 A.I.M. pic BTW
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Each of the surround screws has a lot of latitude to move, as they screw into "movable" speed nuts. Also, the bracket toward the center nose [on each side] has slotted holes so that you can manipulate its position quite a bit. The most difficult items to get right are the inner "bumperettes". These are mounted to the bumper and also get a bolt through the frame hardware from behind [at the bottom]. You have to get them mounted correctly to have any chance of a small gap with the surround channel.
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Originally Posted by jim2527
Ok....but, the grill is held in a fixed position by the lower 3 mounting studs. The only way to line up the chrome would be to adjust the bumperettes.

Thats not a '70 A.I.M. pic BTW
Yup, I realized that afterwards. It's from a catalog, but the same diagram is in the AIM.
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