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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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I recently bought a new Dial Back Timing Light and I need some verification on the usage.

From all the reading and research I’ve done this is my interpretation of using the dial back timing light. You have to set it at what degree you want your engine to be at, and then it should show up at 0 degrees BTDC (Before Top Dead Center) on your gauge.

Example: If I want my engine to be at 35 degrees BTDC at 3500 rpms, I would set the timing light at 35 degrees and when I take the car up to 3500 rpms it should show 0 on the scale or read out that’s on the gun. Does this sound right????

Any help would be good!

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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Yes, set the desired advance on the light, then adjust timing until the timing tab reads 0.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wiseman79
Yes, set the desired advance on the light, then adjust timing until the timing tab reads 0.
Great! Thanks for the quick feedback.

I'm kind of going through a crash course on this new timing light and just wanted to make sure I was interpreting it correctly. It was a pretty high $ light so I want to be sure to use it to its full potential. Again, thanks!

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Yeah, set the timing light to whatever, say 35 and then watch when the mark on the balancer lines up with TDC as you bring the rpm up. You should see the balancer mark migrate toward the TDC mark as you increase the rpm. If it stops advancing before the mark lines up with TDC, you may have to turn the dist some to get the advance you are looking for.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Yeah, set the timing light to whatever, say 35 and then watch when the mark on the balancer lines up with TDC as you bring the rpm up. You should see the balancer mark migrate toward the TDC mark as you increase the rpm. If it stops advancing before the mark lines up with TDC, you may have to turn the dist some to get the advance you are looking for.
Thanks! Good point on moving the distributor if the advance doesn't catch up.........
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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One more question about this. It says to subtract degree advance at idle from degrees at higher speed. The difference is the amount of centrifugal advance.

What is “Centrifugal Advance” mean?
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Originally Posted by curtis74
One more question about this. It says to subtract degree advance at idle from degrees at higher speed. The difference is the amount of centrifugal advance.

What is “Centrifugal Advance” mean?
this the amount you dis advances your timing from idle to full advance-----12 degrees at idle to 35 degrees at 2500rp---23 centrifugal advance
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centrifugal advance is the advance that is added by the weights in the distributor. You have initial advance, which is what your car reads at idle, vacumn advance which is what is added when the vacumn line is reconnected (you did remember to disconnect the vacumn advance when checking timing didn't you) and centrfugal advance. All 3 together make up total advance.
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Originally Posted by curtis74
One more question about this. It says to subtract degree advance at idle from degrees at higher speed. The difference is the amount of centrifugal advance.

What is “Centrifugal Advance” mean?
Doesn't your engine builder/tuner know all this basic ignition curve plotting?
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Originally Posted by C3 4ME
centrifugal advance is the advance that is added by the weights in the distributor. You have initial advance, which is what your car reads at idle, vacumn advance which is what is added when the vacumn line is reconnected (you did remember to disconnect the vacumn advance when checking timing didn't you) and centrfugal advance. All 3 together make up total advance.
That's kind of what I thought so that confirms that for me, thanks! No, I haven't done the timing yet, I'm just getting all the details narrowed down first. I'll be doing that tomorrow. I will certainly remember to disconnect the vacuum line when doing this. Thanks. Everyone has been big help tonight.............
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by yellow 72
Doesn't your engine builder/tuner know all this basic ignition curve plotting?
What's that supposed to mean? I'm asking for my own personal knowledge. It has noting to with the engine builder. But thanks anyway.........
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Curtis74:

Here's a good link on disti tuning and other related things...

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/dist...1-a-59033.html

the hotrodders forum has SOOOOO much information, while not vette specific, the source data is outstanding.

Ben
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Easy there big fella'...I'm just sayin' if I was going to be shoulder to shoulder tuning my new motor with the "master", I'd much rather learn from him
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Originally Posted by yellow 72
Easy there big fella'...I'm just sayin' if I was going to be shoulder to shoulder tuning my new motor with the "master", I'd much rather learn from him
Sorry if you misinterpreted my response! I’m merely trying to gather information and I know the engine builder already knows this. It’s just I don’t. Again I didn’t mean for it to come across that way. Most post are really open to interpretation and it’s easy to read into it. I appreciate your input. Thanks Yellow!

P.S. Referencing back to your “master” quote, unquote. I’ve know him for awhile now and contrary to popular belief he is a great guy and does know what he’s doing!
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Originally Posted by txeagle
Curtis74:

Here's a good link on disti tuning and other related things...

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/dist...1-a-59033.html

the hotrodders forum has SOOOOO much information, while not vette specific, the source data is outstanding.

Ben
Yeah, this is good stuff. Thanks for your help!
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Originally Posted by yellow 72
Easy there big fella'...I'm just sayin' if I was going to be shoulder to shoulder tuning my new motor with the "master", I'd much rather learn from him
Too funny!!
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I would ask your engine builder to show you the appropriate curve for his design. Any competent builder would be happy to show you and explain.
If he cannot, ask a mechanic at your local marina.
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Originally Posted by Kid Vette
Too funny!!
I'm not sure how it's funny when I'm the one asking the question here. No where in this thread have I asked for an opinion on my engine builder. Do you have a problem with me asking a simple question because I don't see the relevance of you comment either?
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Originally Posted by curtis74
............. I will certainly remember to disconnect the vacuum line when doing this. Thanks. Everyone has been big help tonight.............
I think you have to plug that line also once disconnected, someone should chime in that knows for sure.
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Originally Posted by jds68stang
I think you have to plug that line also once disconnected, someone should chime in that knows for sure.


Yes, you must plug the line when you disconnect it. Otherwise your going to have a pretty big vacuum "leak".

Good Luck!

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