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Old May 16, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Is it going to cause damage manually upshifting my '74's 3-spd auto?

How about an occasional downshift?

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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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Are we talking about from highway speeds, or just from start to stop?
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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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No damage at all, in fact that's a very fun way to drive an auto. Just be careful your RPS aren't going to be too high when you shift into a different gear.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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I wish that the megashifters were an easier install, I read a thread or two about a cople of guys that did this on their C3's and it looked fairly involved, still might give it a shot someday though that is way down on the list of to-do's.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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I concur, well I admit it I do the same thing....from about 20-25mph shift it to L2 and gas it until I reach 4300 then back to D(Drive) hope this doesn't BLOW my transmission!!! YIKES!
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From stop light to at speed...

How about downshifting??

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Old May 16, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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No different than shifting any other trans manually....be smart at what RPM you do it....up or down.. the biggest concern is downshifting at too high RPMs
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Old May 16, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Yeah I won't be man-handling it while downshifting...It's not like I was 20 once with a brandeeeeenew Camaro' that I had Supertrapp's put on off a Y-pipe and downshifted at every possible moment to hear them gurgle unless the stereo was up too loud hahaaa...coincidentally blowing the tranny 6K before the warranty was up!! When I picked it up I asked is it bad to downshift at 80 into second??

But I concead I am a much better driver now and heck; more responsible...

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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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I think the '74's still had the THM400 in them. The 400's had downshift overspeed inhibitors and upshift overspeed limiters.... you really can't do much damage to a 400 by manually shifting it. It you downshift at too high a speed, the inhibitor will just prevent the downshift until the rpm is low enough. Shoot, you can just leave it in 1st and wind the snot out of it...it should just shift into 2nd on its own when wound high enough. [I used to do that a bunch, back in the day....probably not a great idea with a 40 year old tranny, though.]
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The guy that I bought it from said I could do that and it would upshift into 2nd itself and the shifter would actually move, true or untrue??

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I think the '74's still had the THM400 in them. The 400's had downshift overspeed inhibitors and upshift overspeed limiters.... you really can't do much damage to a 400 by manually shifting it. It you downshift at too high a speed, the inhibitor will just prevent the downshift until the rpm is low enough. Shoot, you can just leave it in 1st and wind the snot out of it...it should just shift into 2nd on its own when wound high enough. [I used to do that a bunch, back in the day....probably not a great idea with a 40 year old tranny, though.]
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Old May 17, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kmobrien76
The guy that I bought it from said I could do that and it would upshift into 2nd itself and the shifter would actually move, true or untrue??

Kevin

Very untrue. The shifter will never move unless you act upon it yourself.
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I thought so, figured it sounded "different."

So from a technical standpoint, if I put it in 1st, nail it, and it automatically shifts to second then how does that work internally if the shifter is still in first, just curious if anyone knows...

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Very untrue. The shifter will never move unless you act upon it yourself.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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I'm hoping to learn something here, I thought if the shifter was in 1st and starting from a stop, it would never shift unless I moved the shifter.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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As I mentioned before, there is an overspeed limiter valve in the THM400. When governor pressure exceeds a certain value (it increases proportionally with output speed), the transmission will force a shift...even if the shift lever is still in "L or 1st" position. At that point, I always manually moved the shift lever to "2nd" and then shifted into "3rd" manually at whatever rpm I chose.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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It's a good day then, I learned something. I've only put 65 miles on mine since i bought it and rebuilt most everything. Guess I haven't revved it that hi yet.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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i have had to downshift cars manually before because of brakes going out... that and using the e-brake. it wont hurt the tranny. if it would, then why would they make it possible to shift yourself?????
anyways, you should be able to down/up shift at almost any rpm. but be careful and dont blow the tranny, as previously mentioned.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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isnt that the same thing a a (low tech) tiptronic? or even paddle shifters?

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Old May 18, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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Shifting an automatic makes the vette a lot more fun to drive. Installing a Transgo shift kit to firm up the shift points is one of the best improvements I've done. I've been pretty aggressive with my TH350 trans- with 95K miles on it, and no problems.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 02:12 AM
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Try "D." It's kind of the point in those things.

Maybe ya oughta try one of those 4-speed thingies.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Is the Transgo shift kit a hard install? Need to pull the tranny??

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