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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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Here is what I found behind the kick panel on the drivers side. The passenger side is worse. What kind of trouble am I in?

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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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Hard to tell from the image quality but I have seen worse.

Can you get a more clear shot? Adding light to the area and using the macro setting on the camera will help it focus better.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Can you rap on it with a tack hammer and not put holes in it? From the picture, it could be heavy surface rust or pretty well eaten up....hard to tell.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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The rust is all the way thru. The passenger side you could put a golf ball thru. I will post better pics soon. Is this the infamous "bird cage" that I have read that is very hard to repair?
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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The rust is all the way thru. The passenger side you could put a golf ball thru. I will post better pics soon. Is this the infamous "bird cage" that I have read that is very hard to repair?

Yep, birdcage. If it's rusted all the way through, it can be repaired, but it's very hard to do and it's time consuming and expensive.

Is this a car you are buying from your Dad or are you just trying to help him fix it?

Do some more digging. Pull the windshield header trim piece and the A-pillar trim. Check for any rust around the windshield.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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This is the story behind the car and why I HAVE to restore it. My father purchase it in 1988, being a "car guy" he had always wanted one. He drove it for a few years on and off. His health started failing so the car sat most on the time. We lost my dad to cancer in 1994. My younger brother,who lived next door, took possesion of the car but didn't drive it much because it was "Dads car". So there again it sat most of the time. Two years ago my brothers health also started to fail. On Sept 22 I lost my brother also. So you can see, I need to restore the Vette as a tribute to both my father and my brother. I know it is going to be a job but it is just something I have to do.
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It's time to buy that welder and learn a new skill.
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It's time to buy that welder and learn a new skill.

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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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I don't mind learning to weld it's just that I have never done body work and don't know where to even start. Should I keep going with the body removal? I have all the mounts removed and am now working in the engine compartment.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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Well, do not let emotion guide you on that very expensive repair. Think about it.
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What year it is it and what drive train does it have?

Please post more pictures of the problem area, along with the rest of car. This forum loves pictures...

For the reasons you stated, I would go down the path of fixing the car. If you were trying to make money on the car, then it would be a different story.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Its not that expensive if you do it yourself. How far up does the rust go? There are inserts you can get that you can use to replace that section from underneath after you take the body off. There is a rocker channel that runs between that mount and the mount in front of the rear wheel that can also be replaced when the body is off. The only real pita repair will be if the steel below the windshield is rusted out. You will have to take the front clip off to get to that. Don't get me wrong these aren't exactly easy repairs but anyone with a welder and some determination and alot of spare time can do it.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Take a look at the frame, if that is solid then I would put the cover back on the kick panels and forget about it
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
Take a look at the frame, if that is solid then I would put the cover back on the kick panels and forget about it
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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blk79nj, it is a 73 coupe with a 350,not original engine. Thank you all for all the encouragement. Being my first attemp at a restoration, sometimes it just seems overwhelming. I just need to remind myself that I am not on a time schedule. I will post more pics asap. Thanks again for all the help.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Forgot this, does anyone know of a body shop or any person, in the Sacramento area, that is knowledgable with these older vettes? I don't want to just pick someone out of the book. I would like them to have experience with these cars.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Take a look at the frame, if that is solid then I would put the cover back on the kick panels and forget about it
This is worth a thought.... you can still drive and enjoy the car...

You might be able to just patch it without going through the whole body removal.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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No. It's too rough to drive. Besides, we have the body almost ready to remove. We've past the point of no return.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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I appreciate the fact that this car has sentimental value and it is important to you to restore it but you need to fully evaluate it before you start.

With rust that severe in the kick panels you had better have the rocker channels evaluated, as well as the frame. These repairs are not to be taken lightly and should not be attempted without some pretty good mechanical skills. If you take it to a restoration shop who has experience with Corvettes make sure they evaluate all the items before they touch it. The oldest trick in the book is to repair one item and when done point out another in an unending litany of repairs. Some restoration shops will do this to generate cash since they know if they hit you with a total repair bill you will probably run for the hills.

Since you do not have a set timetable the first priority is to evaluate the car and then make it safe to operate. Good luck with your project and remember the folks on this forum have probably already dealt with any problem that you can come accross.
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