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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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I have some issues with powder coating. It seems that there is not enough current between object and gun. Even if I direct the gun towards the clip there is a small spark, where as there use to be a big one. Any one have a clue? It is -5 Celsius could the cold be the problem or is it the equipment?
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While I am no expert - -5 C or 23 F is too cold for both the powder and the electronics to function correctly. I had the same problem last winter - got the temperature up (around 60 F) and the process worked much better. Plus, when the part to be coated is that cold, I don't think the powder will adhere very well.
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While I am no expert - -5 C or 23 F is too cold for both the powder and the electronics to function correctly. I had the same problem last winter - got the temperature up (around 60 F) and the process worked much better. Plus, when the part to be coated is that cold, I don't think the powder will adhere very well.
It has never dawned on me about the temperature requirements to do powder coating. I think my basement stays above 60 degrees anyway but I will be more aware of it now.
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Doing any type of projects requiring drying or curing time needs min. temp of 50 degrees.
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Doing any type of projects requiring drying or curing time needs min. temp of 50 degrees.
He's talking about powder coating, which is cured in an oven at 400 degrees...
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I have never applied powdwrcoat below 60f and the room I do it in is not humid at all. Could this be part of your issue?
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I have no issue with powder. I have an issue with current!!!

I will contact the manufacture, think my gun is broken! DAMN, I was just ready for the big stuff.
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I have no issue with powder. I have an issue with current!!!

I will contact the manufacture, think my gun is broken! DAMN, I was just ready for the big stuff.
What brand is it cajos? I had a Harbour Freight (cheapy) go bad on me - working fine one day and not at all the next.

If it's an Eastwood one (even a cheapy) you'll probably be well looked after by them
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It's the Chicago el cheapo. Worked fine 2 day's ago, I'm in the process of pc'ing my front arms. I have one black and one metallic silver. Couldn't diside what looks best, so I tested one each. Come to think of it did work fine during pc'ing the shafts, hmmmm.

I took a closer look at the gun and discovered a wire to the lower part of the gun that is sort of exposed. Must be a ground leak somewhere. Maybe it is the metal flake in the metallic silver. I will test again with black if that doesn't work either I will cut away the shrink wrap tomorrow and see it the wire is secured underneath it.
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What is the best powder coating to buy. I wasnt aware you could buy a gun and do this yourself. The wife is gone so I guess I could put it in the oven at home??? I never use it to cook with might as well get some use out of it...
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What is the best powder coating to buy. I wasnt aware you could buy a gun and do this yourself. The wife is gone so I guess I could put it in the oven at home??? I never use it to cook with might as well get some use out of it...
Don't mix the oven!!

There are a couple of brands to choose from, it depends on budget. I went for the cheapest, since postage to Europe is killing my budget. On hindsight maybe that was not the best choice. Look on the bay they start from around 70usd or so. There is also a full electric, no need for a compressor and it saves an additional hose, more freedom of movement.
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Originally Posted by cajos
Don't mix the oven!!

There are a couple of brands to choose from, it depends on budget. I went for the cheapest, since postage to Europe is killing my budget. On hindsight maybe that was not the best choice. Look on the bay they start from around 70usd or so. There is also a full electric, no need for a compressor and it saves an additional hose, more freedom of movement.
I'd go for the Eastwood one if you're on a budget. I've had mine for ages and it's far outworked and out lasted the Harbour Freight one I first bought.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...ORY&itemID=458

From what I've read, the electric ones aren't much good. And like cajos said, don't use an oven that you also use for food...
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From what I've read, the electric ones aren't much good. And like cajos said, don't use an oven that you also use for food...
Plus, the odor from some of the powders when curing is BAD! THe chrome powder is the worst!!!!
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Speaking of powder coating, I have been outside cleaning my oven I got for powder coating. One of my buddies is an appliance repair man and he brought me over a Maytag that has the digital temp. Man, whoever had this thing was a slob.

Now onto my question, what kind of oven is everyone using to cure their powder in? Are you using a home style oven or have you built your own, what?
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Speaking of powder coating, I have been outside cleaning my oven I got for powder coating. One of my buddies is an appliance repair man and he brought me over a Maytag that has the digital temp. Man, whoever had this thing was a slob.

Now onto my question, what kind of oven is everyone using to cure their powder in? Are you using a home style oven or have you built your own, what?
An old oven that used to be in my kitchen, but now is in the garage
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I got an old oven from a friend who owns a hardware store. I asked him for a second one, so I can cut the bottom off of one and the top off the other, and weld the doors together. This should make one large enough for suspension pieces.

I haven't gotten the second one yet.
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Craigslist Freebie - works great. Got new heating elements just in case but this one has been doing great as is.
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An old oven that used to be in my kitchen, but now is in the garage
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I got an old oven from a friend who owns a hardware store. I asked him for a second one, so I can cut the bottom off of one and the top off the other, and weld the doors together. This should make one large enough for suspension pieces.

I haven't gotten the second one yet.
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Craigslist Freebie - works great. Got new heating elements just in case but this one has been doing great as is.
At least I am in good company. If you guys can do it with a kitchen oven, then hopefully I can too.
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At least I am in good company. If you guys can do it with a kitchen oven, then hopefully I can too.
Here are a couple pix from my cheapo stove and harbor freight PC gun.
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Nice!
I always preheat my parts before coating. the powder sticks better and more evenly.

I use an old convection oven I got off Ebay, it runs on 110v with is nice. It's a little small, but big enough. Bets part is it has a fan to keep the temp constant.

Oh and I use an eastwood gun, the first one was bad, but this one is good.
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