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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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A friend is working on a 1970 454 coupe. the original front body work has had enough repair work done over the years that he has decided to put a new front clip on. Mainly because he is very picky.

The original bodywork is in pretty good condition really and certainly can be reused.
Question; what it the most efficient way to remove the original front clip. We have never done this before. Should we try to remove in one piece? Any special tricks or methods to detach from the birdcage etc?

Any help would be sincerely appreciated.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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What sort of work needs to be done?
Perhaps it would be better to just replace some of the panels at the bonding strips. The reason to take the whole clip off would be to put a 1 piece front end on. Is that what he intends to do?
The original front clip is made of 3 main pieces and the inner fenders + the front valance panel.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Hi Alan

yes he is putting on a one piece front end. just not sure of all the tricks to remove the existing body work
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There's lots more experience than I have. But I read the words heat-gun and putty knife often.
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PS: Does your friend realize that for some people the 1 piece clip affects the value of the car in some cases?
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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I think it would be easy to pry the fiber glass panels off the firewall because the factory glue is already dried out, my '71 has few places on the front clip that it just left off the firewall by itself! .. a 40 years old glue is diffenately wont be a problem to remove.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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the old glue you see is loose, but hopfully the hidden stuff is still intake.



use a heat gun to preheat an area, and split the seams,
you will see the factory seams and just follow them,
done properly, it will fit together like a jig saw puzzle.
I did it with motor out which makes much easier. 69VETT
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thanks guys

much appreciated!!
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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These photos were very helpful for me. Posted here but can't remember by who.







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30 year old adhesive.... A hammer and chisel
Todays adhesive...... Use a heat gun
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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I've seen several post and projects on removing a front clip. I've seen the clip after it was attached to the fire wall but haven't seen any on the actual install process. Is this a one man job? Just slap some glue on the seams and hold in place for 5 mins? Anyone care to show us (me) how?

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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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Id like to see more information on this too. Im about to tackle this project for the first time. Im removing and saving a clip to reuse.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Where's grayville?I don't have the pics of going thru it,but can walk you threw it,or if you arn't too far....help you threw it.I have done several by myself,but a REAL pain in the azz.I'm right beside Decatur.
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great pictures. thanks Dennis

clip is off with no problems. thanks for the help
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Originally Posted by cgc
...Is this a one man job...
Maybe. The process is more involved than you might think. You could possibly do it on your own, but I'd be willing to bet you'd appreciate a buddy or two during the process.

These will help:


http://www.glas-ra.com/v3_4.html

Good luck.
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Originally Posted by 66L72
great pictures. thanks Dennis

clip is off with no problems. thanks for the help
Did you take pics of the process? Let's see them if you did. Always interested to see the process.
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This will be well spent money for these books

http://www.glas-ra.com/v3_4.html
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Not a one man job two, three, even four will be better...the majority of the work will be mock up, trial fit, measurement by frame location, etc. More hands to move the front clip for trial fit the easier it is..when you mix the bonding compound, don't use too much hardner as it will cure to fast...you need time to position the clip so the fit is right on...
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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i've installed two clips, one was a one-piece from ecklers and the other was a surround/fender factory style. so, i'm far from an expert but i've done enough to discover all the things that can go bad.
first thing to think about is the alignment betwen the nose horse collar, the front bumper and the glass. since the horse collar is bolted to the front crossmember and has only limited adjustment, the clip must be aligned to the collar to make the bumper fit. then the hood has to align with the wiper door(if it has one) or the windshield. adjustments on the frame extensions which further confuse the issue. once you get the nose positioned properly, bonding the thing in place is easy, but be prepared to remove and replace it several times to get the position that you want.
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http://www.glas-ra.com/v3_4.html

Buy a copy and read up on the task.

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Edit - sorry, I missed that the clip was already off. I too would be interested to learn more about the install procedure.

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I pulled the front clip off my 71, as well as the firewall, and it's quite the undertaking.

I have most of the process documented on my website here: http://www.corvette-restoration.com/...ip_removal.htm

Granted, my body was already off the frame which simplifies the process a bit, but it'll give you an idea of what's required. I haven't gotten to reinstalling the clip yet so I can't help there.

Good luck!

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