Loaded Kick Panels
Melting Slicks
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My point was that you might not need as much amp if you pay attention to speaker specs. Given the interior space in our Vettes, a smaller amp is a good thing. There are a lot of good speakers out there with decent sensitivity ratings that don't cost an arm and a leg. If you are not careful, you can easily spend more for a less efficient speaker. It's really all about matching components and finding something that works.
DC
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Just to conclude my portion of DB's thread.
OK, I finished the other side today. Looks very nice. Interesting project. I learned a lot.
Come April when I see my car again we shall see (1) if they fit, and (2) if those Polk units perform better than the Pioneer 4 x 6"s (model TS-A4672R, three-way, highly recommended for this application).
Dynamat? I stuck it on but I really can't see what good it does.
*Edit*, apparently it does a lot of good according to reseach I did today (January 24). Thanks DB.
OK, I finished the other side today. Looks very nice. Interesting project. I learned a lot.
Come April when I see my car again we shall see (1) if they fit, and (2) if those Polk units perform better than the Pioneer 4 x 6"s (model TS-A4672R, three-way, highly recommended for this application).
Dynamat? I stuck it on but I really can't see what good it does.
*Edit*, apparently it does a lot of good according to reseach I did today (January 24). Thanks DB.
Last edited by Paul L; Jan 25, 2009 at 07:15 PM.
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Just a TTT to thank DB for this thread. When that Dynamat black goop sets it makes the kick panel hard as a rock. I was dubious and sceptical about the product but this morning those panels and speakers were very stiff and they are not going to move when installed. And as he stated, they are impervious to errant back side frequenicies bouncing out front. Not the correct physics language from me but you all get my meaning.
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i dont mean to bring up a dead subject, but....
for those of you who have put the 6.5s in, how the hell did you hit the clutch with out ripping your speakers off?
i just put a mocked up wooden set in, and i cant see any conceivable way to hit the clutch with out getting my foot stuck on the speakers and ripping them up.
for those of you who have put the 6.5s in, how the hell did you hit the clutch with out ripping your speakers off?
i just put a mocked up wooden set in, and i cant see any conceivable way to hit the clutch with out getting my foot stuck on the speakers and ripping them up.
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From: Kansas City, MO ...I'd like to go fishing and catch a fishstick. That'd be convenient. - Mitch Hedberg
Earlier in the thread I posted a link to my build thread. I have no problem using the clutch with my speaker next to it. I would have preferred more angle on the mounting of my speaker, but then it would have been in the way. Unless you have feet like Sasquatch you should be fine. I can operate my clutch just fine in a set of size 11 steel toe workboots.
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ya, for an auto theres just an insane amount of room.
i was just out there playing around with it again, and i just cant do it. im either going to get into an accident or blow up my motor or some such when i cant get to the clutch in a hurry.
ive got one last thing to try, ill cut the replica back a bit, instead of cutting out my bird cage. if i can get it to fit like that, i may trim my birdcage a bit to get them to fit.
i was just out there playing around with it again, and i just cant do it. im either going to get into an accident or blow up my motor or some such when i cant get to the clutch in a hurry.
ive got one last thing to try, ill cut the replica back a bit, instead of cutting out my bird cage. if i can get it to fit like that, i may trim my birdcage a bit to get them to fit.
Burning Brakes
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I have those installed in a 4-speed car and have no problems when I'm bangin' gears. I wear wide shoes too and never touch the speaker.
Only picture I have, not great but gives you some kind of idea:
Only picture I have, not great but gives you some kind of idea:
Drifting
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Maybe its just me, but I've just completed installing aset of DB651's in my car and I do have to negotiate my foot around to get on the clutch..there is no chance I'll be ripping the speaker off but it does feel like there is less room.
It may just be the newness of the speaker being there, but I am concious of the speakers presence and i do rub up against it from time to time..
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It may just be the newness of the speaker being there, but I am concious of the speakers presence and i do rub up against it from time to time..
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To answer your question, you need to cut the kick panel for speaker clearance. Can't imagine a surface mounted speaker that would work in any way shape or form.
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Definitely a blast from the past...I PM'ed Durangoboy at the time about the kickpanel as a baffle- and in some, the holes for the original speakers were not covered. I tried to explain to him that is was an "acoustic short circuit." (Google it )
Where as the sounds waves coming from the back of the speaker are completely out of phase w/ the front sound waves of the speaker- Thus canceling out a lot of sound..... He came back w/ some mumbo jumble and told me I was wrong....
SO- If you going to use the kickpanel make sure there are no "leaks" from front to back....
Richard
Where as the sounds waves coming from the back of the speaker are completely out of phase w/ the front sound waves of the speaker- Thus canceling out a lot of sound..... He came back w/ some mumbo jumble and told me I was wrong....
SO- If you going to use the kickpanel make sure there are no "leaks" from front to back....
Richard
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Looking into installing some 6.5" speakers in the kick panels in a 68' As mentioned here some of the larger speakers might require cutting in the birdcage. Is there any disadvantage for doing this beisdes that the car not is original any more?
