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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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How can you protect yourself from buying a 'Flood damaged' car? Is there any way to perdetermine if a car was once under water? I'm looking at buying a 2001 or 2003 Chevy Monte Carlo SS as a daily driver and don't want to get burned. Ebay cars scare the heck out of me.

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Did you do a carfax on it?
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Would a carfax report always cover a flood car? Or is this something that could go without being found or reported. The local TV station had a story yesterday about a young guy who bought a 2007 ford mustand and only after he had it he noticed the seat bottoms rusted out and a mechanic found rusty bolts and corrosion in the wiring harness. I don't want to make the same mistake?
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Carfax would only have a record if there was a claim reported to an insurance company and they in turn entered it into the database. Same thing with police reports of accidents. The only info you will get is the info that is entered in the database.

Flood cars can be very hard to detect and a nightmare once purchased. Inspect it thoroughly and look for rust in unlikely places-inside glove boxes, hood hinges, inside trunk, dirty wire harnesses, corosion in electrical connections, etc. Check places that are not usually exposed to the elements.

Don't buy a car that has been in La, or Miss. in the last 5 years.
There is no fool proof method.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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This should help the NICB should confirm if it was a total loss by the insurance company.
https://www.nicb.org/cps/rde/xchg/ni.../vincheck.html
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by STINGRAY1WORD
This should help the NICB should confirm if it was a total loss by the insurance company.
https://www.nicb.org/cps/rde/xchg/ni.../vincheck.html

You must check here to acknowledge your understanding and acceptance of the terms and conditions of use.

The National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB) has compiled a database (VINCheck) of vehicles from claims data of the NICB members listed below, which were reported as stolen within the past five years and remain unrecovered or declared a total loss. This information is being made available, free of charge, as a public service to consumers.

* The NICB has not independently verified the information in the database and cannot, therefore, vouch for the accuracy of this information.
* There are many other vehicles which have been reported as stolen which are not included in this database.
* There are also many other vehicles which are total losses which are not included in this database.
* It is possible that a vehicle was incorrectly reported as having been stolen, or was stolen and recovered, but has not removed from this database.
* It is possible that a vehicle was incorrectly reported as being a total loss, and has not been removed from this database.
* It is also possible that there are vehicles with duplicate VINs and/or VINs incorrectly entered.

* If a vehicle is reported in this database as having been stolen, but not recovered, you should verify with the NICB or your local law enforcement agency that a stolen vehicle report is active before taking any action regarding the vehicle.

By checking a VIN against this database, you agree to not hold the NICB, its employees, Board of Governors, Members, agents or any other entity which provided this information to NICB, liable for any reason as a result of your use of this information including, but not limited to, if the information proves to be inaccurate.

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OK I 'm pretty sure that car fax and any other reporting vehicle history will have some sort of disclosure that thay are not responsible for their info also. Again it was only another source to obtain info that is available. In this case free
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Originally Posted by STINGRAY1WORD
OK I 'm pretty sure that car fax and any other reporting vehicle history will have some sort of disclosure that thay are not responsible for their info also. Again it was only another source to obtain info that is available. In this case free
I'm sure you are correct.

I just didn't want him thinking that if it didn't show up on that site, that it proved that the car wasn't a flood victim.

Most people don't read the disclosures

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Originally Posted by Red70vette
Flood cars can be very hard to detect and a nightmare once purchased. Inspect it thoroughly and look for rust in unlikely places-inside glove boxes, hood hinges, inside trunk, dirty wire harnesses, corosion in electrical connections, etc. Check places that are not usually exposed to the elements.
Don't buy a car that has been in La, or Miss. in the last 5 years.
There is no fool proof method.
You could also use a mirror and inspect up under the dash for water and or mud line stains. Engine compartments and undercarriages can be steam cleaned and power washed so look in other places such as behind kick panels and/or under carpeting and that would not receive this type of cleaning.
Good luck in your search and on your purchase.
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Unless it was under water for a long time or was not repaired properly, who cares? It's a fiberglass car. If the frame and birdcage isn't rusted out and the engine works OK, I'd still buy it if the deal was good.
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Unless it was under water for a long time or was not repaired properly, who cares? It's a fiberglass car. If the frame and birdcage isn't rusted out and the engine works OK, I'd still buy it if the deal was good.
He's looking at a Monte Carlo so we're not talking about a Vette. I remember seeing something about Carfax or someone else having something specific for flood damaged cars. A free search perhaps. You might have to do a little research but I think there are some sites that offer some sort of protection from flood-damaged cars. That is no substitute for careful inspection of a car. Feel under the dash or other normally inaccessable areas to see if there is rust or dirt buildup. Look under the car - if the chassis and components seem more rusty than the mileage would suggest I'd be suspicious.



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