I read a very good article on how to dye vinyl (from one of the dealers, I think). Of course, now I can't find that article.

Three questions:

1) clean with denatured alcohol?

2) if I have new pieces of black vinyl - I don't think I can dye to a lighter color (Oxblood - for me). Don't I need to make it white first?

3) anyone know about this vinyl "how to" article?

thx

 

I don't know about the article, but I just have dyed a number of interior pieces including the dash, dash cover, kick panels etc. Recommended cleaner is ammonia but I used automotive paint prep to remove all grease, wax etc. Once cleaned do not touch with bare hands, use vinyl or latex gloves. I used a light primer to pre coat the item. Then used a vinyl dye of your color choice. Never had a problem going to any color change, however it may take several coats for uniform coverage. Strictly follow the dye directions. This should work as well for you.

 

Here is a link to the best article on prep that I have ever seen:

http://semproducts.com/images/Users/...substrates.pdf

 

Going lighter or darker is not a problem with vinyl dye. Cleaning can be done by several methods. Good ol' detergent is fine and will present less risk to damaging the vinyl; but you have to flush all of the detergent off the surface, as well. It's the years of Armor-all use that get the greasy build-up on these vinyl parts that must be removed...or the dye will not bond with the vinyl well. If you use a primer, make sure that the dye manufacturer is OK with the brand you choose. I've never used a dye primer...and also never had a problem. Vinyl dye is meant to be sprayed on vinyl....

 

P.S. Don't buy spray can "vinyl dye" from these aftermarket suppliers. Most of them have spray paint labeled as vinyl dye. It's paint...not dye. Get your dye from a professional auto paint supply store.

 

And yet this is another thing I want to do... just reading this forum is getting pricey, I wish it was spring/summer I would be driving and not reading all these cool threads.. that will ultimatly cost me $$$$.. LOL

 

SEM automotive interior dye is good stuff. I've used it with excellent results.

 

Try this site.http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/ Serves the body shop industry. You can search and find your original interior color You'll have a hard time finding a supplier of the factory dupont paint originally used on the interior pieces, but there are several other products and how-to's there as well.

 

The factory didn't use paint, Dennis. We've been over this one before.

 

Call it what you like. I posted the paint library site to give the poster an option. Sure he doesn't care what we call it, but since you insist on correcting me on what was used originally, here's but a small sample of opinions.
I'll rely on someone that was there, or NCRS specs for the original interior PAINT that was used


Re: C3 69 Kick Panel Paint

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In the "good old days" at Lordstown in 1969, I have to admit to painting kickpads and garnish moldings on sheets of cardboard in the aisle of the Trim Shop during '69 model buildout when we ran out of the correct molded-in-color parts; the guys from Paint Repair brought us spray cans of adhesion promoter and interior trim colors to use. They looked fine, but dunno how long they stayed that way



Re: dye-(vinyl paint )for 82 molded plastic seats

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Yes they can mix the color with varying degrees of flattening agent. There should be a chart to follow in the paint chip books the get the correct lever of gloss for the part you want to paint. Also with adhesion promoters and flex additives the paint will not come off. While some plastic interior parts could be ordered in color it was rarely done. Most were sent in a neutral color and painted to match. Bring the seatback to your paint supplier and have your interior codes handy. He should be able to mix it for you. Don't be scared if the color looks to shiney at first. It needs time to dry for the true color hue and shine.



1965 Saddle Interior Paint

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1965 Interior Paint

I have just painted the dash and interior components on my 1965 with PPG Medium Saddle Metallic. The original color seemed to be of a darker shade of Saddle or Brown than the PPG lacquer that was applied. The PPG lacquer has a golden cast to it. PPG states that this is the only formula they have for the 65-saddle interior code #421. Does any one have paint codes for Du Pont or RM lacquers for code #421 interior?

 

What you have displayed are "sound-bites" from folks who either: 1)executed rework in the factory by spraying 'something' given to them onto damaged parts. This guy called it 'paint'...because he didn't know the difference; or 2) actually used paint on their interior parts because they [also] didn't know the difference.

I'm sure if I wanted to waste my time I could scour the CF blogs to come up with many more clips where knowledgable people avowed to this liquid being vinyl dye.

P.S. Have you ever bothered to visit a pro auto paint supply store to even ask about vinyl dye?

 

This article gave some good info
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/modding/46


Rod

 

Thanks, rydoc, for the info. While vinyl dye does fall under the category of a "paint" {defined generically as a pigmented coloring product coated onto another surface}, calling it paint has always been a point of confusion on this Forum. The write-up you listed shows the significant differences between vinyl dye and regular paint. Dye penetrates into the plastic to form a direct bond; paint covers the surface and merely adheres to it. Paint will chip and flake off; vinyl dye will not. Paint will fill in surface texture...with 2 or 3 coats, any surface texture will disappear. Vinyl dye will not change surface texture, regardless of the number of coats. And, most importantly, if you ever paint a plastic/vinyl surface, that surface can never again accept vinyl dye properly.

 

Glad I could help...

Rod