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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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I was filling my brand new blown 406 small block with coolant and noticed a slight leak in a freeze plug on the block. Figuring I didn't seat it enough when I installed it I took a socket and gave it a few taps. To my horror it went into the water jacket. I can put another one in its place but does anyone know of any potential problems with cooling? I am worried about hot spots in the no. 5 and 7 cylinders if the old plug is just cruising around in there. No way I can think of to get it out short of pulling the engine and trying to dice it up with a dremel and take it out in pieces.

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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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If you can fish it back up to the hole, you can grab it with vise grips and start bending. Fold it up until you can get it out.

I can't see it as being a real problem thinkng of the volume of water that moves around in there. If it was at the top of a cylinder I'd think about it maybe more, but at the bottom I can't see it as a deal.

FWIW: A thin coat of #2 Permatex or Indian Head will help seal the OD of a freeze plug.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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It needs to come out. Do not consider leaving it in the engine.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Just use a magnet to get it over to the hole and turn it sideways so it's starting to come out and do like Tim says, grab it with vise grips or get a heel bar hooked in the lip of it. It will come right out.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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I have found plugs in water jackets but never seen it as a issue. Not saying that it could not cause a restriction. Bottom line is that if you do not remove it you will always worry about it!
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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you could put one of theos springer-grabbers in the hole, open, and just fish around, eventually, you might grab it....
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Aktbird
Just use a magnet to get it over to the hole and turn it sideways so it's starting to come out and do like Tim says, grab it with vise grips or get a heel bar hooked in the lip of it. It will come right out.
If its brass I dont know how well a magnet will work. Brass is non ferrous. 66 percent copper and 33 percent zinc...????
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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See if one of the other plugs is magnetic. If it is, use a magnet; if it's not, use a 'grapper'. Just get it out.
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Years ago I did the same thing. I also thought no big deal. Well to make a long story short, my temp gauge also was shot, and the plug settled in where it was restricting the flow of coolant, and next thing you know, it was time for another motor...
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
See if one of the other plugs is magnetic. If it is, use a magnet; if it's not, use a 'grapper'. Just get it out.
Try a magnet, or the grabber...or get a thin stiff wire and bend the tip and fish it out....but get it out.
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thsnks for all the great advise. I am going to fish it out.

Rob
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Old May 1, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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I had the same thing happen, grabbed it with vise grips and pulled and twisted till I got it out, brass is pretty soft and bends easily
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