The ebay car: "we have an appraisal that says its worth over $60k." Well, alrighty, then.

The brown car... there's gotta be better choices out there.

The black '69... awful car- it's been on ebay forever.

 

Teach me here...what's makes the black 69 rate "awful"

I wish I could find better ones, perhaps I don't look in the right places but I am not fidning anything,

 

At least the red car you showed and the brown car were "customs." They were going for something, weather it was a misguided attempt at style or 70's retro or... something.

This thing has nothing going for it. The only response you would ever get in this car is, where did your front bumper go? Its not even a full later nose, as the '69 gills are still in place, so I'll bet there a naaaasty seam someplace. The wrong year hood doesnt fit, and the paint looks a bit shaky. Wrong rockers is a nice touch. Sits high enough in the back for air shocks. Whats going on there?

Nice tach addition in the interior. The RH door jamb looks suspicious. Top seems a bit dull. The missing headrests are not attractive.

NOM motor in the middle of an engine compartment detailed by someone with a box of Crayons isn't a plus.

Can I stop?

The car has no value. You would spend $20k getting the car to be worth $15k. No. Find something else.

 

I didnt want it, just wanted to know why it was awful to learn by that,

 

I have to believe that there are a lot more 1/2 finished projects sitting in garages down in Eckler's back yard (Florida) than what we'd find up here in the heartland. I'm surprised your not tripping over these things at weekend garage sales.

I'd like to know about the C4 your selling

 

Steve is right on on this stuff.He's probably one of the most knowledgeable guys on this forum when it comes to pricing stuff.
Alot of these old cars have been wrecked in the front,and that doesn't mean the frame is off.It doesn't take much of a bump to seriously damage fiberglass.I buy alot of project cars,and my finding in Corvettes is...is they are okay,or missing a clip from damage.Not many people who wreck a bumper car now days would replace the front clip w/a newer style,but alot of these cars were wrecked before the prices went crazy,and 73,and up frontends are a dime a dozen,and very cheap,so they apted for the later clips.
I would also,suggest that you have the frame checked,but most arn't tweaked that I have found.
I agree w/the backwards approach at pricing,but somewhere....someone paid someone good money to even hang a later clip,so it isn't really realistic to say....okay...you have a 70 convertible w/the wrong engine,and wrong clip,and the interior is shot,so to replace the front clip,and paint....lets subtract 7500.00.The interior needs redone,so lets subtract another couple grand,and the engine isn't original,so another grand,and I will offer you 10k less than your asking price.That's not real,or fair.The seller isn't selling a correct car,but a modified car that IS NOT correct.
Steve buys,and has correct,and rarer cars rebuilt,and they are for sale at the end of the build.He looks for cars that are as complete as possible,and redoes them,so they appeal to the Corvette community as a nice example of a original/correct car.He know his stuff probably better that 99.9% of these guys,but YOU can't price a custom the same way he prices a true black L46 convertible,either.
I see guys on here all the time that say they would pay a 1000.00 for a non correct convertible,cause it needs alot of work.I would buy ALL these examples!!!!Everyone of them.PLEASE...PLEASE send them all my way.These are guys that look at a car from a factory corrcet standpoint,and pay other people like me to build their cars,so the bill is going to be very high at the end of the build.You do your own work,and your time is worth money,but you are going to save alot of money doing alot of the work yourself,and you should be looking at the car w/YOUR final vision in sight.
I'm not saying to pay top dollar for the car w/the mods.Someone paid to build the car,and many sellers try to recoup every penny they invested in the car,and that isn't realistic,either,but nor is devalueing the car to pennies on the dollar because it takes x amount of dollars to make the car correct.
Look on craigslist.There are alot of scams out there,but alot of deals too.Eckler's doesn't have it in their catalog,but they still make the tilt frontend kits that you like.
There's a blue 68 on ebay that a forum member owns for 7500.00.It isn't correct,but has a good 73 frame,and 454 w/auto.I sold the rear convertible body section to him,and he started from there.Is this a great price?NO,and a terrible price if you subtract what it would take to make correct.From the work,and the parts that are there....it's good money,and a okay start to go whatever direction that you want.I'm not trying to promote his sale...this is just a example,and I do know alittle about this car as it was once one of my convertible projects.Only a example...of a starting place to go the whatever direction that you want.I will also,say this tho'......last I saw...noone has even opened the bid at 6k.I work on these cars daily,and build them,so labor doesn't scare me away,but it does take alot of money,and time to make them nice.
These are just sharing my thoughts.I don't know everything,and there's alot of guys alot smarter than I.
The green car is a 68.It's outback waiting for new stroker engine,and paint.Wanna buy it?
Cheers all......

 

in your back yard

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/1218121712.html

 

pbcanney,
You would think so, but not really the case, okay, my wife did score the 76 at a garage sale I saw the car before you listed here in my backyard, besides not being a convertible it's a basket case, I cant tackle that big of a mess,
my c4 is tired needs TLC its a runner driver not a purist car not junk it is what it is,
Lets talk about it in private,
The13bats@aol.com


Vettebydesign I would like to see the Fleabay 68 but cant find it,

Sounds like you and I are on the same page with custom.mod cars do have to have some value, we can't just say because the are mods they are worthless

 

I go along with the thought that there has to be some of these "project cars" in your area. After all you're in Orlando. Greenwood and Eckler's have had to saturate that area back in the day. Now I'm not saying these cars were like Chevy Citations all over the place but if those parts sold at all (and they did) there would have to be some still in the area. This is going to take some work unless something happens to fall in your lap. I would even place some "wanted" adds in the special interest papers (they are usually free). Hey you can even start here on this and some of the other forums. You never know what might turn up. It's worth a try especially a "custom" in this economy.

 

Guys, I know it seems that because Ecklers is here, ( yea, his son used to party in my nightclub, )
We should have all kinds of rat holes with old cool customs and parts hidden away, but if that is the case they are as hard to find as teeth in a chicken,

I have posted all over the web and several corvette forums what I am seeking,

I believe this will be just like it is with old Grass roots kit cars which I am also into,
I staff over on priceofhistoys.com some of those cars are also hard to find,

People who have this stuff ferreted away, many are getting up there in age, they don't surf vette forums they don't even hit Craigslist, many or most don't even go online,

That's why I did appeal to you guys to help me find one,
I believe it will be found in a garage or under a tarp in a carport, the owner will believe it's a 200K gold mine or near worthless, no matter what shape it's in.

The NCRS thing comes up in Oct I believe and Turkey rod run sometimes gets a few vette venders, Ecklers has a show too or used to but their idea of custom now is their Stinger hood for the c3

Plus I have learned so much in this thread at the very least I will get a better price

 

Saw this one in massachusetts on Craigs list looks like something you might be interested in http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1213896136.html

 

The only use I could see for the Brown car would be tribute car. Replace the clip, clean up the engine with some vintage parts, a rollcage, and some old stickers. I love the old customs, but they are to expensive to replicate now.

Good luck on your hunt.

 

Now that is cool.

 

 

Yea, I was very disapointed to see that flamed car isnt a Convertible

Even the flames on that car are cool in a tackly sort of fun way

Many thanks for helping me out this will be the way I do find the one for me,

 

More learning for me,

This car is 12.500 with no engine or tranny....is it worth 12.500 and wouldnt the seller be better out sticking an engine and tranny in it????

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-...1%7C240%3A1318

 

this is too nice to customize

 

Not what I asked, but thanks for playing...

To put your mind at ease I would leave it stock,
My 72 was a BB air Roadster and had tan interior but this car is close,

I was more thinking that "IF" its worth 12500 and a person placed an engine and tranny in it would that be something to profit on...lol

 

Is it my old eyes again, or did they cut the engine cradle out of this car to take out the engine and trans?

That car is not worth $12,500. It would be worth about $15K - $20K with a good NOM motor and trans, but given that Bubba has ripped whatever was in there out, I think you are looking at a big pile of dough and a lot of manual labor to return that to a nice cruiser. And even that estimate is assuming that the rest of the car is in good shape, which sounds like a remarkably bad assumption based on what it looks like under the hood.

Edited to add: OK, I took a closer look at the pictures. The one door panel is beat, the other is not nice. There are rips in the seats, bad paint pretty much everywhere, and the piece de resistance: It looks from the stain on the driver's side carpet like water has been leaking into the interior from under the dash. If I was standing next to that car, my only regret is that my arthritic knee would prevent me from running away fast enough!

 

Yikes....I thought something wasnt right where the engine goes,

So tell me why are people who are or claim to be in the know pricing things the way they are just wishful thinking?