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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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do you guys cover your vin? i'm in california and afew ppl have told me i should do this. opinion?
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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And why should you do this?
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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Hmmmm. I suppose that someone could 'borrow' the VIN off your car and find out your name and address. Maybe that info could be used to pull off some scam....i.e., borrow money against your car, etc. That's a new one on me, but I'd be interested to know what the 'risk' is with showing your VIN.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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I believe it is the law in Brokeaformia that the VIN number must be visible at all times. Ed
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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Hmm, I dont get it. Why hide the Vin?
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Maybe so someone can't create a fake auction on ebay and try to sell a car he doesn't own.

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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 02:30 AM
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Yes, I've covered VIN's on every vehicle I've had for several years now with a small, thin piece of easily removed flat black plastic. FWIU, this keeps would be thieves from taking VIN, make and model info to dealer under the guise of having lost their keys to have a duplicate set cut. Of course, on older cars this may not be a problem, but it's a habit I'm sticking with, law or no.


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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
... this keeps would be thieves from taking VIN, make and model info to dealer under the guise of having lost their keys to have a duplicate set cut....
No disrespect, but if a thief wants your car, he's going to get it, and does not need the VIN to do it. To my knowledge, there is no key code information in a VIN, so attempting to use a VIN to get keys cut wouldn't help.

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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
No disrespect, but if a thief wants your car, he's going to get it, and does not need the VIN to do it. To my knowledge, there is no key code information in a VIN, so attempting to use a VIN to get keys cut wouldn't help.

With some newer cars, the VIN is used to make a new key. They are pretty good at checking your ID though, for obvious reasons.

I doubt it's an issue for C3s though.
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they would get way more info. coping your license plate than a 40 year old vin #

I don't think your gonna get away with covering your license plate, ... for very long !
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The 'key code' information is not in the VIN...it is in the cross-reference info that the factory has which yields the key code. Years ago, I lost keys and called the dealer where I bought the car. They used the VIN to get key codes from GM. As with any "information" these days, maybe it's best to keep it to ourselves. Interesting...
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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This is typical identity theft paranoia. The only number you should keep sacred is your social security number. Everything else about you is available via the internet. Google your name, you will probably be surprised.
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C3 key blank codes are fairly well known and are listed in several reference works. Knowing the blank code gets you close per model year. You'd still need a lock or ignition cylinder to cut a key.

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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
No disrespect, but if a thief wants your car, he's going to get it, and does not need the VIN to do it. To my knowledge, there is no key code information in a VIN, so attempting to use a VIN to get keys cut wouldn't help.



I'm sure I would make a terrible criminal, but with a few basic tools, I could break into my car and take out the ignition switch in a fairly short amount of time. That would allow me to unlock the steering wheel and hot wire the starter. I am sure I wouldn't be "gone in 60 seconds", but it wouldn't take me all afternoon either. That's a lot less work than taking down someone's VIN, contacting a dealer, convincing them to give me a set of keys FINDING THAT SAME CAR AGAIN, and driving it away with the keys. I am not sure GM has the cross-reference for the key information on 40 year old cars anyway, and even if they did, how many of these cars have been re-keyed over the decades?

The only reason I can think of for covering your VIN is that you suspect (or know) your car has a dubious past. If I thought my car was stolen sometime in its past, I might want to cover the VIN before showing up to something like Carlisle so that if the owner from whom it was stolen sees the car, he can't verify that it is the one he owned.
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And why should you do this?

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Not only should you cover your VIN, you should wear a disguise when you drive the car. You should probably cover the license plates too just to be safe.
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Not only should you cover your VIN, you should wear a disguise when you drive the car. You should probably cover the license plates too just to be safe.


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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
Yes, I've covered VIN's on every vehicle I've had for several years now with a small, thin piece of easily removed flat black plastic. FWIU, this keeps would be thieves from taking VIN, make and model info to dealer under the guise of having lost their keys to have a duplicate set cut. Of course, on older cars this may not be a problem, but it's a habit I'm sticking with, law or no.


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This is typical identity theft paranoia. The only number you should keep sacred is your social security number. Everything else about you is available via the internet. Google your name, you will probably be surprised.
I agree. This is absolutely pointless. Do you tape a piece of cardboard over your license plates, too, law or not? This kind of thinking would definitely make for a pretty paranoid lifestyle.

I was in line at the Post Office recently and a woman tried to pay with a credit card and the clerk wouldnt take it because the card wasnt signed. The woman insisted credit cards shouldnt be signed, because they could then be stolen and the signature copied. The clerk said no signature, no sale. Lady just left. Nuts.
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there are 'bill of sale' only states where a scammer that has your vin can fake a bill of sale, sign it and subsequently get a title in his name of your car without ever seeing it.
now all sorts of havoc is created where he can claim that you have his car, or he can sell it fraudulently.. and you have a mess to clean up...
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