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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Hello All,

I'm about to add on to my current shop to include a better sleeping spot for my 69 and would like some ideas before I start. Here's what I plan: the size will be 16' x 30'. It will be insulated with A/C. I plan to have the interior walls and ceiling will be covered with commercial tin/sheet metal in white. I plan to have air hose plumbing for air tools etc. Standard work bench and tool boxes. I would like to epoxy the floor in white and black 3'x3' squares. Insulated auto garage door.

Pics and ideas please.

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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Just something to think about, but my garage has the 2 garage bays, but off the back of one of the bays, there is a recessed area for work benches and a space to work.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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drop cords and lot of lighting...

leave part of the ceiling open so you can use the rafters/etc for storage

install 2 fans on opposite sides so you can create cross-ventilation when needed...
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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Lot's of good advice and a few good guys as well!

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These are all suggestions:
  • Plumb your air outside of the walls using 1/2" copper. Stub out for air drops next to the ceiling outlets previously suggested for electric drops. You dont want to rip into the walls if you develop a leak.
  • Double what you think you need for lighting. You'll never have enough light.
  • 2 X 6 studded walls are not that much more expensive than 2 X 4 and provide somwhat better strength, up to 50% greater insulation capability, and more room for infrastructure.
  • use wide, 12"hi frosted windows that let in plenty of light, but keep eyes and bodies out - or put in a few skylights.
  • Use metal frame doorways. The first time a gust of wind comes through and slams a door shut when the bay doors are rolled up you'll be glad you did.
  • Bring water to the structure if possible. If you do, stub out for a shop sink, and run a 30A dedicated circuit as well for a small water heater. You should be able to french drain your 'grey water' - check your local building codes.
  • If you bring water, stub out for hose bibs on at least 2 exterior walls.
  • Run at least one 80A 240V ckt - you'll want it for something eventually.
  • Figure out where you want your BIG air compressor to be located (even if you dont have one), and run a dedicated min. 40A 240V ckt to that location.
  • Don't forget to stub out for coach lights, and while you're at it, add a ckt for floods: either on the corners for security, or at least out front for driveway lighting.
  • The higher the ceiling the better. Most homeowner lifts will need at least 10'
  • Put one GFCI outlet on each exterior wall.
  • engineering part of the ceiling and wall to accommodate a 1 ton chain hoist will eliminate the need to have a big ole cherry picker taking up space.
  • Cabinets are your friend. the more the merrier. dont blow the budget on fancy ones, shop cabinets get abused no matter how careful you are.
  • Don't epoxy the floor in the area where you'll be doing any welding and grinding (if any)

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Ceiling height 11 feet or more for a lift
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Install the urinal right next to the beer fridge!
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Save or consider space for any audio/visual stuff: tv w/DVD or ye olde computer [laptop or deskside w/15" or 17" monitor, bigger if affordable].

With outfits like Willcox providing valued data (.pdf files) on CD/DVD or if you are keeping up with CF realtime, that sure is handy when you are next to the car.

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Originally Posted by Smadoo
Just something to think about, but my garage has the 2 garage bays, but off the back of one of the bays, there is a recessed area for work benches and a space to work.
I did this and it really helps keep the clutter off the side walls, and a good spot for the laptop and fridge.
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Dont skimp on the number of electrical outlets, the more the better. Also, maybe run a phone line out as well.
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You definitely need a kegerator so that you will have help with your projects.



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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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I installed lot's of cupboards, 32" LCD TV, DVD player with surround sound, and used light grey & black with red outlines on the floor.

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do not install a floor or fixture that will make you sad when it gets scraped, gouged, dented, burnt or abused in any way.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Hi Andy,
Have racks, shelves, etc. to keep as much as possible up off the floor. It makes it much easier to sweep/vacuum up.
Fire Extingushers with a far greater capacity than you'll ever need. There has been much discussion about what type to have ready. Halon use to be the preferred choice, I believe.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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The forums at http://www.garagehangout.com are a great source of information.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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this is my add on the back of 2 stall garage..22x35. i want more space..



plans to finish with insulation, and sheetrock. then cabinets.
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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Build it as BIG as you can!!!

You'll run out of space before you know it. (And the last thing you want to do is crowd your Vette)
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Like has already been said.. Go as BIG as you can!!!. It is never enough... I had space for a 25'X40' with 10' ceilings & wish I had room for 50"X80"...

Anyway... Lots & lots of electrical outlets... I have a 20amp receptical every 5' in all walls. Also have 5 quad boxes in the ceiling for pull down drop cords & lights... 2 additional quad boxes at working height over the bench... One GFCI outlet outside the building.. I put two switched recepticals near the ceiling on the back wall wo I can hang fans or whatever else I want to be able to turn on/off without a ladder... Also ran a dedicated 220 circuit for the ac unit and one for the compressor...

Since my TV is going above the workbench, I added a receptical where it is going to live... I also ran my cable behind the wall coming out where I wanted it. I also ran the telephone line behind the wall before I drywalled... Both lines are ran to a "Communication" box near where I will tie into them from the main house. I ran underground conduit from the house to shop so I can easily tie into them. I also ran 1 1/2 conduit from the attic area to behind the work bench area so I can run any extra wires later (speakers/intercom ect...)

I built a nice little home for the vertical compressor in the corner of the shop... I insulated the heck out of it and lined the walls & ceiling with sould absorbing tiles... I used a 1 3/4 solid wood door with a foam seal around the perimiter... I cut ventilation holes in the ceiling above the compressor and framed in an ac filter. You can barely hear it run!!! I am also thinking about a small blower just to make sure everything stays good & cool... All lines are copper and ran behind the walls with two covered drops on each wall & three from the ceiling as well as one on the outside of the building just incase I want/need to work in the driveway... The only thing I would have done differently here is to run lines to an external pressure regulator near the workbench so it would be easier to change working pressure and a power switch so I could turn it on and off from outside the cabinet. .. I just did not think about it at the time...

Lights, lights, lights... I have 12 recessed light fixtues leading down the walkway and over the workbench... I also added ten of the 8' tube lights (total of 20 bulbs) over where the toys are parked... Switched independently between both rows so I do not need to run them all if not necessary... I have security/flood lights on each corner of the exterior and a motion light above the entrance...

Oh yeah... Armorpoxy flooring...

Any thoughts on a good alarm????




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Great ideas for your man cave's!
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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If you have a high enough ceiling, add a loft, I have the loft 14' off of the floor, great place to have the tanning bed, ect. Allan
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