Stingray emblem high
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From: Laurel MT
Stingray emblem high
The Stingray emblem on my fenders are higher than indicated by the assembly manual. The car is a very early 1969. I can not see that there have ever been any other holes in the fenders. Could there have been a revision to change the placement. On page 250 of the manual there was a redrawn and redesign note that occured in July of 1968. Any help on this would be appreciated.
Ron
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Ron,
That is strange. I also noticed it in a previous thread. I've got a library of books on these cars and I looked to see if there was any mention of an intentional repositioning design change or such. I couldn't find anything at all. We do have some members on the forum that actually worked the line or has knowledge of the assembly line scope back then so maybe they could shed some light on how this happened (if it occured on the line). All 69's that I have vever seen (early and late builds) have always had the emblems directly above the gills. I'm partial to these cars and target them at shows because I have one as well. It's one of those things where I know I would have noticed a high placement like you have.
Are both equally as high?
Terry
That is strange. I also noticed it in a previous thread. I've got a library of books on these cars and I looked to see if there was any mention of an intentional repositioning design change or such. I couldn't find anything at all. We do have some members on the forum that actually worked the line or has knowledge of the assembly line scope back then so maybe they could shed some light on how this happened (if it occured on the line). All 69's that I have vever seen (early and late builds) have always had the emblems directly above the gills. I'm partial to these cars and target them at shows because I have one as well. It's one of those things where I know I would have noticed a high placement like you have.
Are both equally as high?
Terry
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Most likely the fenders have been changed during a repair and the holes drilled in the wrong spot. It is not impossible that this is a valid production car, but it is highly unlikely. The engineering drawing for its correct placement would have been available prior to hardware availability, so someone would have to really screw-up bad...on both sides... for this to be a factory [or engineering evaluation] vehicle.
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From: Laurel MT
Yes, both fenders are of equal length. It's possible the fenders have been replaced, but I can find no obvious evidence of that happening. I am at least the third owner of this car so I don't know what has happened earlier. Should I try to move the emblems to the correct position of leave them?
Any help is again appreciated.
Ron
Any help is again appreciated.
Ron
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Yes, both fenders are of equal length. It's possible the fenders have been replaced, but I can find no obvious evidence of that happening. I am at least the third owner of this car so I don't know what has happened earlier. Should I try to move the emblems to the correct position of leave them?
Any help is again appreciated.
Ron
Any help is again appreciated.
Ron
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Really depends on what your plans are for the car and how much it bothers you. Like fauxrs2 said, it would require a re-paint however I'm not too sure you could even get away with just painting the front end. Black is one of the toughest to match. If you eventually plan to paint, I would consider moving the emblems but if not, I'd personnally just leave them. Makes for a good conversation piece. I've looked at your profile pics and it is a beautiful car may I add!
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I saw a fellow break out in tears because some frame mark wasn't correct on his mid year....
If you are not trying to get some **** NCRS award then who really cares....if some dolt points it out at a show tell him yours is a factory "special"
If you are not trying to get some **** NCRS award then who really cares....if some dolt points it out at a show tell him yours is a factory "special"
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Hi RB,
The placement bothers me enough to move them; and I realize what that entails! I'm the wackiest of the wacky!
Only 1 in 10,000 regular people who looked at the car would think the script was high AND that person wouldn't bother to move them.
In the picture the paint looks way too good for you to think about moving them now.
Regards,
Alan
The placement bothers me enough to move them; and I realize what that entails! I'm the wackiest of the wacky!
Only 1 in 10,000 regular people who looked at the car would think the script was high AND that person wouldn't bother to move them.
In the picture the paint looks way too good for you to think about moving them now.
Regards,
Alan
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I know that from the factory there will be four holes there for the studs. But are you sure the studs are there? Some people cut off the studs and use two-sided tape. It might be worth a peek at the inside of the fender.
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From: Laurel MT
I painted this car myself after removing all the trim and sanding down to and sometimes thru the existing paint. The studs on the emblems are there. There were no other holes. I think for now I will leave them where they are. I did list the car for sale and that is where the placement was pointed out. It may lower resale, but I may end up keeping the car. I do not have to sell and it is a really fun car to drive.
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Hey Ron, don't feel so bad, take a look at my red '70 rear emblem. I'm leaving it the way it is and seems to be a good conversation piece at car shows. I know what it would take to reposition them and I'm not going to do it. I bet the masses won't even notice your side emblem so keep it and enjoy it!
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The placement of your script emblem is not correct [should be the bottom of the lower-case letters..except for 'g' & 'y'...are 1.5 inches above the horizontal fender break line, with the script centered over the vent areas below], but yours do not look 'distracting' as they are. You will lose some points, if you have it judged by NCRS, and you will get some comments from hard-core Vette-heads; but if that doesn't bother you too much, leave it alone. If you have some matching paint for touch-ups, you could fill the holes, carefully sand, paint then feather some clear over the area and color sand it level. Power polish the shine back and it should be good. I wouldn't even consider that if it had a metallic paint; but with solid black and having perfect match to paint, it should work OK. Choice is yours. Good luck.
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If it is pure black w/no flake or anything like that you can sometimes take your color and tint the clear with it and it will not ring when you buff it. Of course the issue is there but your eyes may or may not pick it up. Black is tuff no matter what so it can be a toss-up as to what you get. If your paint is super slick it would be a tuff choice to chance it unless you decided to paint it if it didn't work. 2 cent opinion!
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Its up to your personal level of obsessiveness. Its true that most people wouldnt notice, and obviously most people who have answered this thread wouldnt know or care. However, that would make me absolutely crazy, and if it took a repair to get it right, I'd do it. I'm sorry not to go along with the crowd, but that would bother me a lot, especially on a black car.
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I'd def look on the inside of the fender for the holes, or even stick your hand through the gills and feel around for them.I painted this car myself after removing all the trim and sanding down to and sometimes thru the existing paint. The studs on the emblems are there. There were no other holes. I think for now I will leave them where they are. I did list the car for sale and that is where the placement was pointed out. It may lower resale, but I may end up keeping the car. I do not have to sell and it is a really fun car to drive.
If your selling it, i'd imagine most people who would look at it will notice.
Its up to your personal level of obsessiveness. Its true that most people wouldnt notice, and obviously most people who have answered this thread wouldnt know or care. However, that would make me absolutely crazy, and if it took a repair to get it right, I'd do it. I'm sorry not to go along with the crowd, but that would bother me a lot, especially on a black car.
Bugs me too. If I was looking at it to buy, first thought it would make me wonder what else is wrong, just to be honest, but if your keeping it well i'd think you just like it that way. 
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Look to see if your emblems use 4 three-quarter inch pins each, these would have been the originals. If you see 4 pins of shorter length those are service replacements. If you see 3 pin emblems those are later service replacements. At least you'll know if your emblems have ever been changed.
There should be no speed nuts, barrel nuts or push on clips of any kind to hold the emblems on, at least from the factory.
There should be no speed nuts, barrel nuts or push on clips of any kind to hold the emblems on, at least from the factory.