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Old 12-02-2009, 12:16 PM
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I read this account decades ago in the auto section of my local Sunday newspaper. It was likely an article from the LA Times or some other big city paper. I never bothered to clip the article but it went something to this effect:

On average, 10% of a model year's cars are lost each year, due to accident, theft, rust, etc...for one reason or another, they just cease to exist.

Example: after 10 years (1979), of the original 38,762 '69's produced, only ~13,515 remained. Or, in other words, more than 25 thousand disappeared!
Has anyone else heard this?
Do you think it's true?
Regardless, how many of your vette's total model year production do you think are still around? And by around, I don't mean as a feed bunk on uncle Albert's farm.

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64% of statistics are made up on the spot, but only 18% of people are aware of that.
Old 12-02-2009, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
64% of statistics are made up on the spot, but only 18% of people are aware of that.
And 50% of the remaining 36% is derived from incorrect survey methods.
(I just made it up on the spot)
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I think the numbers would depend on the car..

for example, I would think a lot more Ferrari's are around then say an AMC pacer...
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I'd think it depends on the model of car. How many Mavericks, Escorts, Pacers, Chevettes, Mustang II's, Chrysler K-cars, name-a-car-here do you see any more?
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Originally Posted by Vampyre
I think the numbers would depend on the car..

for example, I would think a lot more Ferrari's are around then say an AMC pacer...
This clearly has to be true. My first car was a '75 Mustang, and it was an OK car, considering it had a Pinto body and a smogged down 302. A few times, I have looked around for one like it, I can't find one at all. In fact, if there are 2 or 3 '75 Mustangs for sale on ebay at any given time, that's a lot. I believe this is because nobody really loved them like they do a Corvette or an old Camaro. Look at the lengths people go to save a '69 Corvette, and even a '75 Corvette for that matter, even though the '75s are much maligned. I junked my Mustang when I hit a guard rail and messed up the body real good, and I assume lots of other people did the same. People don't junk '67 Corvettes because they get a bunch of body damage, so the rates of "loss" have to be different.
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Originally Posted by 69 Chevy
...Has anyone else heard this?...
No.

...Do you think it's true?...
No.

...I don't mean as a feed bunk on uncle Albert's farm....
I had four uncles for a statistical value of 100%. None were named Albert. Also 100%.

One of my aunts is named Albert.



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Originally Posted by Allen_396
I'd think it depends on the model of car. How many Mavericks, Escorts, Pacers, Chevettes, Mustang II's, Chrysler K-cars, name-a-car-here do you see any more?
The reason you do not see them here in the USA is because they have been sold and shipped to Mexico, South America, and other Third World countries....IMO....This is a good thing!
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Originally Posted by rajsid
(I just made it up on the spot)
Damn, you had me convinced 3 times out of four.
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I read somewhere on the internet that 4 out of 3 people had trouble with fractions. Therefore, it must be true.
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Originally Posted by GREGG-73
The reason you do not see them here in the USA is because they have been sold and shipped to Mexico, South America, and other Third World countries....IMO....This is a good thing!
Not really. You bought the same crap steel back again last time you shpped at Walmart. 'Made in China'
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Originally Posted by Allen_396
I'd think it depends on the model of car. How many Mavericks, Escorts, Pacers, Chevettes, Mustang II's, Chrysler K-cars, name-a-car-here do you see any more?
Red Green has all the K-cars.
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Are there any vehicle registration records, data, reports, ect that would indicate anything about how many of something may still around?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
64% of statistics are made up on the spot, but only 18% of people are aware of that.
and 7/4 of all teenagers dont even know how to use fractions, idiots...

Miles
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I really do not subscribe to those generalizations/stats but obviously there is some attrition in these old cars via accident or just rust-out/junking.

There were only 5,474 convertibles in 1974 produced. How many are left? I do not know. I can only guess and I would say 50% in decent condition.

So I'll pull a Barrett-Jackson and try to sell it as a "rare" car for $35,000. It is a rare car afterall . Actually a very nice car.



Steve...VetteBuyer...I am waiting!!!

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Originally Posted by randommj
and 7/4 of all teenagers dont even know how to use fractions, idiots...
That's only 1 3/4 % of all teenagers.
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The way most Detroit cars were made in 1979 (the steel ones), I think 10% per year being "toast" was a low estimate. How many '79 Chevys are still around?
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Originally Posted by Allen_396
I'd think it depends on the model of car.


In fact only about 1500 or so of the 1040 '57 fulie Corvettes still exist today.

"There are lies, damn lies and statistics." Mark Twain
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Originally Posted by 71coupe454
Are there any vehicle registration records, data, reports, ect that would indicate anything about how many of something may still around?
Not to my knowledge, but Big Brother may know more than we think he does.

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