When does a car become a "Custom" ?
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Drifting
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When does a car become a "Custom" ?
Is it when It gets any type of body mod?
Or does it take more than a set of wheels or some bolt ons?
Or does it take more than a set of wheels or some bolt ons?
Last edited by OzzyC4; May 10, 2010 at 10:24 AM. Reason: typo
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Very simple, any deviation or change from stock...including wheels and exhaust or engine changes other than OE replacement parts...If you have trouble with my definition, just ask any Judge at a show...They should be able to spot a change immediately or he`s a bad judge.......A single change can make a custom
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Very simple, any deviation or change from stock...including wheels and exhaust or engine changes other than OE replacement parts...If you have trouble with my definition, just ask any Judge at a show...They should be able to spot a change immediately or he`s a bad judge.......A single change can make a custom
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My 'perception' is a bit different. When incidental parts (wheels, air cleaner, stock part chromed, etc.) are altered, I see those as modifications, so the car has been "modified".
When styling lines are changed or configuration is significantly altered from stock, that's when I see a car being "customized".
When styling lines are changed or configuration is significantly altered from stock, that's when I see a car being "customized".
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Corvettes usually become a custom if for example were added, fender flares, L88 hood, different interior, engine chrome , different wheels and tires, great paint with pinstripping or designs.
Modified is usually bolt on items. Mostly in the engine or wheels.
Modified is usually bolt on items. Mostly in the engine or wheels.
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Very simple, any deviation or change from stock...including wheels and exhaust or engine changes other than OE replacement parts...If you have trouble with my definition, just ask any Judge at a show...They should be able to spot a change immediately or he`s a bad judge.......A single change can make a custom
NCRS judges are fooled every damn day.....
When THAT fact became known, the game was over.....
so by your own terms, ALL cars are custom/modified.....
Melting Slicks
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My 'perception' is a bit different. When incidental parts (wheels, air cleaner, stock part chromed, etc.) are altered, I see those as modifications, so the car has been "modified".
When styling lines are changed or configuration is significantly altered from stock, that's when I see a car being "customized".
When styling lines are changed or configuration is significantly altered from stock, that's when I see a car being "customized".
This is a very good representation of the standard for classifying cars that has been used in my many years of attending or participating in judged shows, including national level events.
Can't claim that its universally accepted, but IMO small mods do not make a car custom. Individual yes, custom no.
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Just attended a car show yesterday, the judges said if there are more than 3 modifications to the car it cannot be entered as stock. A friend of mine listed his car as a stock 1982, his car no longer has the cross-fire injection, he was still able to enter it as stock. Not too sure if this would fly at other car shows.
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From Wikipedia:
"A custom car is a passenger vehicle that has been modified in either of the following two ways. First, a custom car may be altered to improve its performance, often by altering or replacing the engine and transmission. Second, a custom car may be a personal "styling" statement by the re-styler/re-builder, making the car look "unique" and unlike any car that might have been factory finished. Customs are distinct from hot rods; exactly where the difference lies has been the subject of debate among customizers and rodders for decades."
The debate goes on..........
For me stock is anything that appears to be stock even it is not numbers match.......modified is bolt on performance enhancements......and custom is permanent modifications to body lines that can not be undone with a wrench.
"A custom car is a passenger vehicle that has been modified in either of the following two ways. First, a custom car may be altered to improve its performance, often by altering or replacing the engine and transmission. Second, a custom car may be a personal "styling" statement by the re-styler/re-builder, making the car look "unique" and unlike any car that might have been factory finished. Customs are distinct from hot rods; exactly where the difference lies has been the subject of debate among customizers and rodders for decades."
The debate goes on..........For me stock is anything that appears to be stock even it is not numbers match.......modified is bolt on performance enhancements......and custom is permanent modifications to body lines that can not be undone with a wrench.
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My 'perception' is a bit different. When incidental parts (wheels, air cleaner, stock part chromed, etc.) are altered, I see those as modifications, so the car has been "modified".
When styling lines are changed or configuration is significantly altered from stock, that's when I see a car being "customized".
When styling lines are changed or configuration is significantly altered from stock, that's when I see a car being "customized".
Chrome air cleaners and aftermarket wheels and carbs do not make a custom. Changing the body and interior lines is where the line is imho.peace
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Then there are NO totally stock Corvettes in existence except maybe a few at the BG Museum.....replace ONE bolt by anyone other than a direct GM paid worker, and it's not stock....period....
NCRS judges are fooled every damn day.....
When THAT fact became known, the game was over.....
so by your own terms, ALL cars are custom/modified.....
NCRS judges are fooled every damn day.....
When THAT fact became known, the game was over.....
so by your own terms, ALL cars are custom/modified.....
Melting Slicks
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My 'perception' is a bit different. When incidental parts (wheels, air cleaner, stock part chromed, etc.) are altered, I see those as modifications, so the car has been "modified".
When styling lines are changed or configuration is significantly altered from stock, that's when I see a car being "customized".
When styling lines are changed or configuration is significantly altered from stock, that's when I see a car being "customized".
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So, where does this car sit?
It has aftermarket wheels, tires, exhaust, engine and suspension components.
An L88 hood and Z06 seats.
Everything else is stock.
I normally enter it in the modified class. Should I change?
It has aftermarket wheels, tires, exhaust, engine and suspension components.
An L88 hood and Z06 seats.
Everything else is stock.
I normally enter it in the modified class. Should I change?
Melting Slicks
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I say modified. I was in a show and i wanted to be put in custom and they put me in race. I guess it is in the eye of the beholder.
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Then there are NO totally stock Corvettes in existence except maybe a few at the BG Museum.....replace ONE bolt by anyone other than a direct GM paid worker, and it's not stock....period....
NCRS judges are fooled every damn day.....
When THAT fact became known, the game was over.....
so by your own terms, ALL cars are custom/modified.....
NCRS judges are fooled every damn day.....
When THAT fact became known, the game was over.....
so by your own terms, ALL cars are custom/modified.....
Last edited by Ironcross; May 9, 2010 at 09:18 PM.