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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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Not sure if everyone knows but with alot of help have found the car and owner of the motor that is in my 1969 Camaro Convertible.
we are trying to work out some type of deal at this moment and am unsure if it will happen but its a good story either way.
How much does the correct engine make a difference in a value of a car?




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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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in a chrome bumper c3 i would say a big block car with a non original motor would decrease the value by around 6 or 7k. nice CAMARO by the way. how much does it decrease your camaro? be nice and give him a good deal.

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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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Very nice Camaro! I've heard it said that not having matching numbers reduces value by about 15%.
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Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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That is an awesome RS!
I would ask that he replace your engine with something equivalent. Maybe another 427, or perhaps a crate big block. It surely is worth that to have the original motor. Maybe he has another 427 in his car, and since the engine you have already is not original to your car, swapping will not hurt your value any. I think it is great that you found the car your engine was paired with! I would love to hear more details......
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It doesn't matter what his car might sell for with or without your engine. All that matters is whether the owner wants to put the original engine back into the car...or not. If his car is very nice and very original...and he has some interest it selling it, or is excited by the possibility of marrying the car and engine again...there might be a deal in the making. Otherwise, it's nice that you have the engine for that car, but...so what?
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dbeall1968
I would ask that he replace your engine with something equivalent.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
It doesn't matter what his car might sell for with or without your engine. All that matters is whether the owner wants to put the original engine back into the car...or not. If his car is very nice and very original...and he has some interest it selling it, or is excited by the possibility of marrying the car and engine again...there might be a deal in the making. Otherwise, it's nice that you have the engine for that car, but...so what?
7T1vette has nailed it here. While the matching numbers engine may add $5k or more to the value of his car, the owner has so far lived without it and may have made modifications to his car that have taken it further away from stock. The value of the 427 is what he is willing to pay and what you are willing to accept in return. And, yes, very nice Camaro!!

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by provfirescott
Not sure if everyone knows but with alot of help have found the car and owner of the motor that is in my 1969 Camaro Convertible.
we are trying to work out some type of deal at this moment and am unsure if it will happen but its a good story either way.
How much does the correct engine make a difference in a value of a car?




......Sweet ! My favorite GM of all time! Is that an original SS?.....or just got the SS badges.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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think also of a buyer of that car in the future, sure it is a nice story, but is it provable? as a buyer the only way I would pay original engine money for a car is if the owner count was extremely low and documentation all the way back. with today's rebroaching and restamping and doc counterfeiting, anything can be done. usually not done by the current owner, but 3 or 4 owners back..

but if I was buying a car that had a replacement engine, then the owner 'found' the original and put it in, I would have a hard time believing it. maybe on faith i would give him a little more than NOM money, but certainly not full original engine money.. what ever that my be. there is high motivation to counterfeit a 66-69 big block.

I have a appraiser's report that states a NOM car is worth 25% less than a original engine car ( chrome c3 ). of course the report is about as valid as the data that he used. but 25% is a ballpark

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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IMO, it sort of depends on the trail that leads everyone to believe it is the original engine.
If it is the original I would think that having the original engine would be worth way more than some of the figures quoted above. I would guess it would add 40-50% to most Big Block cars.

Like I said, only if the paper trail, etc. confirms it is the right motor.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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The owner of the Corvette is an NCRS member and lives on the west coast. He is interested in reuniting the engine with the car and wants the seller to be happy with the deal.

I don't know if either or both parties are looking at it simply from a financial point of view of 'how much more will the Corvette be worth' rather than the emotional feel-good story it would carry.

The difference in sale price would be dramatic I think.
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Its an original RS/SS BB Camaro just missing its 396
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Its an original RS/SS BB Camaro just missing its 396
Tell him to buy you a 396.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nutsy
in a chrome bumper c3 i would say a big block car with a non original motor would decrease the value by around 6 or 7k. nice CAMARO by the way. how much does it decrease your camaro? be nice and give him a good deal.
Well theres a big price difference in the Camaro world for small blocks and big blocks and then throw the 427 Camaros in there and its off the charts.
I understand I dont own a Yenko Camaro but cant go backwards either.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Who knows? Maybe this is the missing original engine from the black Camaro?! Then we could all live happily ever after.

No, wait, there's that stupid oil spill, record layoffs and unemployment, huge tax increases next year to pay for our "free" healthcare, etc......

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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Its an original RS/SS BB Camaro just missing its 396
................Tell him to track down the original 396,.............but, there is a good chance it was blown up. Lots of 396s were blown up.
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Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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If sold it will have a replacement 427 nothing smaller
One of these 3 motors
http://www.gmhorsepower.com/ZZ427-Anniversary-Motor.php
http://www.gmhorsepower.com/ZZ427-GM-Crate-Motor.php
http://www.gmhorsepower.com/ZZ572-620-Deluxe.php

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Originally Posted by dbeall1968
That is an awesome RS! ......
Way off topic, but the Camaro, if its a BB car from the factory....its
automatically a 'SS piece and not 'RS. The 'RS lights are merely an RPO option as any other add on........ie....radio, PS, PB, ect. ect....on down the list including the 'RS option.....

and yes its a great car

looking closer by the position of the heater hoses, its a real 396 and a 325 or 350HP Camaro. Anything else would have a aluminum intake and would be a L78 car....

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Is the corvette a 69 and is the engine an L-36? If yes/yes then I can't say how big a difference the original engine will make, but not as much as it would with a tripower. If it is a tripower then the vette owner will need a new intake among other things. Is that the original intake? Looks a little high. Either/any way, in addition to the $$ for a replacement engine you will be undertaking a lot of work to do the swap. If the engine is out of a 1967 corvette I would guess it would be more valuable to the vette owner than a 69.
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