I have just had my car repainted using a 2 pack PPG brand paint. They did all the prep work, primer etc. then applied 3 coats of the 2 pack PPG paint. I was expecting them to put on a clear coat, but they told me that they wouldn't recommend it. The car is a driver, but it will be garaged. They said that the PPG rep did not recommend clear coat for this car either. The paint looks amazing already and shiny as hell, but I am spending quite a bit on it so I want it to be the best it can for as long as possible.

What are your thoughts?

 

Mine is in the process of being painted. They are painting the first with PPG Riverside Gold, and than paitng House of Colors Kanga Gold on top. Also it's having black Baldwin motion stripes put on, and having all the chrome emblems air brushed.

 

Take the advice of your painter. You paid for his/her expertise.

 

Thanks Mike, you are 100% right, but it is hard when the advice goes against everything I thought I knew (me having never painted a car before and them doing it every day!).

Kev

 

I had this car painted last year with PPG single stage, most people can't tell the difference, and it does shine!

 

Wow, that is nice, it actually looks a lot like my new color too!

Cheers
Kev

 

Mine was just done with a PPG products. Mine got 2 coats of clear. The base coat had no shine but looks great with the clear.

 

Yeah, DON'T clear over single stage. It's not a good idea. While it can be done, eventually the clear will come off the color. Especially if you plan on driving it. Base/clear or two stage paint is meant to work with one another so it doesn't separate. Just for the record, clear coat isn't paint. It's a sprayable plastic. Don't believe me? Leave some in your gun for a day and see what happens. (that's a story I'd rather not talk about) Anyway, that's why you need special polishes and such for clear coat paint jobs. It's a whole 'nother animal. If the PPG rep and the painter said leave the clear off, believe them and leave it alone. You'll be happier in the long run.

 

 

first off you can clear over single stage and it won't peel or flake off. read the MSDS sheets if you don't believe me. main reason being to clear over a single stage is if you want to wet sand a metalic as you can not with a single stage as you remove the pigments from the metalic. also provides a extra amount of UV protection from fade out as single stage paints fade faster then a base/clear. also for doing a great flat job for show finishes for solid color cars as you can sand out all the orange peel then clear it then sand out all that orange peel for a great deeper looking finish.

second all compounds and buffing and polishing is the same for either single stage or base/clear.

third clear and base coats and single stage paints depending on the brand are mostly acrylic urethanes.

RM/diamont, glasurit and some others are polyester based clears and bases.

then depending where you leave specially cali now you get into a whole different monster with waterbourne paints and clears.

If your car was sprayed in a single stage paint its good to go as the clear inbodied in the base works itself to a shine as it dies and cures.

it's basicly the same as old enamel but severly upgraded to a urathane.

knowledge learned from 10 years custom painting and 2 years as a ppg rep. and also a dupont rep. and a few years behind the counters of a automotive supply store.

 

I assume your car is not a metalic color?? If not a single stage is fine. I used PPG Concept single stage on my last Camaro.

 

I restored my 65 Ford Pickup and shot it with acrylic enamel and 3 coats of clear PPG polyurethane, color sanded and buffed it and it looks great 20 years later. A lot of road dings and bugs but the clear never came off amd it will buff out just fine today.

 

i've been a painter for over 20 yrs and i am ppg certified and also sherwin williams certified and icar and ase.

 

NICE 70 Impala! I had a 69 vert, red w/black int & white top for 10 years.
Glenn

 

I'm not exactly new to the scene guys, I shot my first gallon of Ditzler black lacquer in 1987. Have I shot Clear over single stage? Yup, Sure have. Have I successfully wet sanded and buffed metallic single stage without a clear coat? Yup, did that too. There's been lots of show quality and daily driver paint jobs over the years. Just because something worked way back when, doesn't mean it'll work tomorrow. The paint companies constantly change formulas and systems. I stand behind what I said before, if the PPG REP AND THE PAINTER say it's a bad idea, it may just be.