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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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You may have heard by now via a post on the NCRS website that beginning October 1, NCRS is offering Corvette shipping data (no option data) for cars shipped between '62 and '72 (see below for details from the NCRS site).

"With permission granted by the General Motors Heritage Center, the National Corvette Restorers Society is pleased to announce that it can now offer solely to its members, certain information contained in 1962-1972 (with some limited 1973-1974 data) Corvette Month Car Shipped Reports. The ordering information will be available at our new Documentation Services website at www.NCRS.org/services.html. The new website will be activated on October 1st to accept orders.

The first service is the CORVETTE SHIPPING DATA REPORT. The information consists of the dealer code, dealer name and the date the car was produced. The good news is this should allow you to find the original dealer where your Corvette was sold and possibly open the door to finding more information about your Corvette. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record.

The second service is the CORVETTE DOCUMENT VALIDATION. NCRS will compare any of your GM documents to the GM records contained in the Shipping Report and if verification can be achieved, will establish the authenticity of your factory documents. Unfortunately, the shipping report does not contain the vehicle options. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record.

Information is available for 1962 to 1972 with some limited information to 1974. Only requests made by an NCRS member in good standing will be honored. The cost for either report is $40, to reimburse NCRS for time incurred to research the request against the GM records and provide appropriate response. Some records may not be obtainable due to damaged/missing files or physical condition of your documents. Further information may not be retrievable from a Chevrolet Dealer, e.g. failure to archive records or termination of the Dealership."

Early Shark (Warren) - are these the docs or part of the docs you've referenced in the past?
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A W E S O M E !!!

Like finding a hidden treasure........... !!

Now if thats not a good reason join & become a N.C.R.S member what is ?

KUDOS.........NCRS !!!
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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That is AWESOME (although, it won't apply to my early production 75) this will make a lot of people very happy .... another others will cry.
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Disproving some phony documents is a nice plus, but I have to think the majority of the fake cars out there are just restamped engines, without docs. The dealer delivery info could possibly track down a handful of these, but I'm not seeing a significant impact on the fake Corvette business here without some correlation between factory records and options as a particular car had when it left.
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If they could provide the information that would be on the tank sticker, that'd be worth it, but they say they can't even do that. After paying $40 for the dealer info, you still have to track down that dealer and HOPE they still have the info, if they're still even in business. I'll wait until some other folks use this service and report back on their success.

I'd really like to know what HP my BB was originally, and to verify all of the options that are on it now.
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Basically the info currently available from NICB without the hassle of trying to find someone in law enforcement willing to risk their job to get the info for you.

It's a good start, but more detailed info is needed.

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Originally Posted by 427SIXPACK
...Like finding a hidden treasure...
Not quite. I applaud the efforts of the NCRS; the information will be useful for some folks and will be of no consequence to others.

I have a copy of the dealer invoice for my '80, so I have the dealer information. From what I have been able to determine, my '68 has spent its whole life within the county. In the spring of '68 when the car was delivered, there were only two Chevrolet dealerships. She went to one or the other. Do I want to pay $40 to know which of the two? Not today. Maybe some day.

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Originally Posted by 66L36Coupe
You may have heard by now via a post on the NCRS website that beginning October 1, NCRS is offering Corvette shipping data (no option data) for cars shipped between '62 and '72 (see below for details from the NCRS site).

"With permission granted by the General Motors Heritage Center, the National Corvette Restorers Society is pleased to announce that it can now offer solely to its members, certain information contained in 1962-1972 (with some limited 1973-1974 data) Corvette Month Car Shipped Reports. The ordering information will be available at our new Documentation Services website at www.NCRS.org/services.html. The new website will be activated on October 1st to accept orders.

The first service is the CORVETTE SHIPPING DATA REPORT. The information consists of the dealer code, dealer name and the date the car was produced. The good news is this should allow you to find the original dealer where your Corvette was sold and possibly open the door to finding more information about your Corvette. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record.

The second service is the CORVETTE DOCUMENT VALIDATION. NCRS will compare any of your GM documents to the GM records contained in the Shipping Report and if verification can be achieved, will establish the authenticity of your factory documents. Unfortunately, the shipping report does not contain the vehicle options. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record.

Information is available for 1962 to 1972 with some limited information to 1974. Only requests made by an NCRS member in good standing will be honored. The cost for either report is $40, to reimburse NCRS for time incurred to research the request against the GM records and provide appropriate response. Some records may not be obtainable due to damaged/missing files or physical condition of your documents. Further information may not be retrievable from a Chevrolet Dealer, e.g. failure to archive records or termination of the Dealership."

Early Shark (Warren) - are these the docs or part of the docs you've referenced in the past?

Dan,

This is not the exact document I've been referring to.

Warren
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While it's a "good start" - I don't see this as a lot of help determining what car came with what options. -W
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Originally Posted by early shark
Dan,

This is not the exact document I've been referring to.

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Oooh. The plot re-thickens...
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Originally Posted by Clams Canino
While it's a "good start" - I don't see this as a lot of help determining what car came with what options. -W
its a great start for those that do not know the originating dealer because that type of paperwork may still be obtainable via the dealer, or information leading you to previous owners etc......... from there you can find out many more details !!!
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Originally Posted by early shark

This is not the exact document I've been referring to.

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early shark, warren, I hope you are right... this is great news, but you know how us 'vette owners are....
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Originally Posted by early shark
Dan,

This is not the exact document I've been referring to.

Warren
Is it the same people you were refering to or is this a different deal?
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NCRS
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Originally Posted by Vette758702
early shark, warren, I hope you are right... this is great news, but you know how us 'vette owners are....
If a document which contained option info could be found I'd be interested. Knowing the dealership it shipped to 40+ years ago would probably not be very informative. I can get some ownership history from DMV for $20 if I care to try to locate past owners. At least that's what the DMV tells me, they will divulge what's on record.
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Originally Posted by 427SIXPACK
...its a great start for those that do not know the originating dealer because that type of paperwork may still be obtainable via the dealer, or information leading you to previous owners etc...from there you can find out many more details...
Yes and no. The information will be valuable for some folks, no doubt, but won't mean anything to others. Many of the dealerships these cars were delivered to are gone now -- out of business for years. In a case where the original dealer is still in business, there is the likelihood the dealer no longer has any records of the delivery and purchase of a 40 year old Corvette. GM required the dealers to keep records going back ten years. At the end of that period, the records could go in the trash.

The car shiipper information might prove to be helpful, but it is not the Holy Grail or the pot at the end of the rainbow.

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Hi

A German fellow claims that he ordered the shipping invoice from the GM heritage center and it had all options listed with it ( like the tank sticker ) , this for his 77 C3.

If the NCRS holds the shipping invoices in hands for the 63 to 72 , why doesn't it contain this options info as well ?

Or is this a money making idea, ask 60 $ to become member to be able to pay an other 40 $ for the dealer info and may be later on sell ea option at a time as well.

Some strange info coming from different people/sides here .

RGds. Günther

Edit: Why is NCRS only sending a letter with the dealer info rather than a copy of the shipping invoice ?

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Originally Posted by WESCH

Edit: Why is NCRS only sending a letter with the dealer info rather than a copy of the shipping invoice ?
Because you're getting incomplete information here.

This is the actual page:

http://www.ncrs.org/delivery.html
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Because you're getting incomplete information here.

This is the actual page:

http://www.ncrs.org/delivery.html
RE: Document validation service. If there are no records of options, what information are they validating?
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Originally Posted by BBCorv70
RE: Document validation service. If there are no records of options, what information are they validating?
"The second service is the CORVETTE DOCUMENT VALIDATION. NCRS will compare any of your GM documents to the GM records contained in the Shipping Report and if verification can be achieved, will establish the authenticity of your factory documents. Unfortunately, the shipping report does not contain the vehicle options. A letter containing the information you request will be mailed to your NCRS address on record"

Should sort out some of the bogus tank or window stickers.
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