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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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I'm in the market to buy a 1975-1977, and am looking for some guidance. On a particular car I've seen and driven ('77 L82), the owner has done significant mechanical work on the car ($15k+ in receipts over two years, from a reputable local shop) and has had the windshield replaced. The windshield posts look to be rust free, and he says no major rust repair work had to be done during that process. The frame appears/sounds solid, but there's some slight surface rust on the flat plane of the driver side door frame, almost as if the paint wore away and the exposed metal oxidized. Is this kind of rust an automatic indicator of a bigger problem?

Thanks for the help. I'm new here, and getting back into Corvettes after learning to drive as a 14-year-old in my dad's 1967 427-435.
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had the windshield replaced. The windshield posts look to be rust free, and he says no major rust repair work had to be done during that process.
Why was the windshield replaced? Wonder what "no major rust repair" means? No holes found? If no holes were found when the glass was replaced, it's a good start.

Where was the surface rust on the door? On the bottom? If it's just surface rust, no holes or flakes it may be OK.

What did the owner have done to run up $15K in repairs over two years?

Usual advice is if you're not very familiar with C3s have someone who is take a look. There are several problem areas which can cost big $$ to fix.
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 11:42 PM
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Why was the windshield replaced? Wonder what "no major rust repair" means? No holes found? If no holes were found when the glass was replaced, it's a good start.

Where was the surface rust on the door? On the bottom? If it's just surface rust, no holes or flakes it may be OK.

What did the owner have done to run up $15K in repairs over two years?

Usual advice is if you're not very familiar with C3s have someone who is take a look. There are several problem areas which can cost big $$ to fix.
He had everything gone through mechanically, new bushings put in, the windshield done, new carpets. He said there was no holes when the windshield was replaced, but I'll have to find out the why. The bodywork is straight, with no weird panel gaps, and the nose and wheel well lips are excellent. The surface rust is on the flat of the door frame, in the space between the hinges. The car had the work done at a reputable shop in town, but is it a conflict to then ask them to evaluate it for me?
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Originally Posted by LefthandedHex
...The windshield posts look to be rust free...
With the exception of the area of the VIN plate, you cannot see the birdcage around the windshield with the interior and exterior trim in place.

...there's some slight surface rust on the flat plane of the driver side door frame, almost as if the paint wore away and the exposed metal oxidized...
The door is stamped steel. The door hinge post is covered with fiberglass panels. Post a pic of what you're looking at.

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With the exception of the area of the VIN plate, you cannot see the birdcage around the windshield with the interior and exterior trim in place.



The door is stamped steel. The door hinge post is covered with fiberglass panels. Post a pic of what you're looking at.

True, you can't really assess the condition of the pillars by looking at the windshield but you can get an idea. If you look carefully you can sometimes see evidence of rust issues. Look closely at the points where the pillar is spot welded to the upper and lower corners. Sometimes moisture gets trapped here causing the joint to swell with rust. I've seen photos of some with bubbling under the paint, another sign of problems. No guarantee, glass has to come out to be certain so I guess you can only inspect as best you can...

If you're suspicious, you could ask the owner to remove the trim from the pillars. I think it's only one screw on each side. The header/corner spot welds are a common rust area. Don't mean to sound negative but repairs in the area can be very expensive. Rust is sometimes hard to detect.

RE: Door frame... may be a terminology issue. I'd guess he's referring to the door itself, not the door frame. Some surface rust may be harmless. Pictures would be helpful.

There are many other areas to check as well. If possible, best bet may be to recruit someone knowledgeable on C3s to have a look.

If the owner has kept meticulous records, it may be a great car.
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what does he want for it?

paying a mechanic to do repairs can get really expensive really fast for very little mecahnical improvement depending on what was done (for example, maybe he paid a guy for 6 hrs labor to change his door lock cylinders). See what parts he actually put in.
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