HELP! Please,
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '12
HELP! Please,
I just purchased an advance timing light. The previous owner had paint on the time tab and pully. I sanded the paint of and can now see everything on the tab. BUT I CAN NOT FIND A DAMN MARK ON THE PULLY!!! For the life of me I can't seem to find a mark. How can I find it? Isnt it suppose to be a line cut into the pully edge?
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '12
THATS JUST GREAT, The guy painted that blue too! So I was looking on the pully edge for nothing. I figured since the points on the tab were facing the front, that the line would be in front. But there is a tiny hole in the tab behind the 3degrees. Am I suppose to find the line threw that hole? Does anyone know for sure if its a mark or a grove thats into the balancer.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '12
I FOUND IT! Thanks guys. I was looking in the wrong place. DUH. There is a grove in the harmonic bal. Even though the bal. is painted I can still see it, thank god. Thanks again guys for the help.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '12
Thats what I did. But theres a problem. With the timing light the mark is 1 inch below the tabe. I have the distributor turned all the way counter clockwise, it will not turn no more. I can not get the mark close to the tab. When I turn the dist. clockwise it goes even lower. Im also using the button on the back of the light. I just can't get it to the tab. What am I missing? Am I doing somthing wrong?
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '12
I plugged each sepratly, then both together = NOTHING. I have the distr. maxed all the way counter clockwise. I can get the line to go to where it's suppose to be by rev. the engine to 2200 with the vac. hose on. With the vac. hose off I can get it where its suppose to be at 3200.
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The hose to the carb you want to leave alone,you want to pull the line on the pass side of distributor at the bottom and plug,then set timing at car's specs-
Do you have original timing cover,or after market?
Your distributor is HEI,right?
Sorry for the questions
Do you have original timing cover,or after market?
Your distributor is HEI,right?
Sorry for the questions
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St. Jude Donor '12
Yes it is the orig. timing cover, And it is HEI. But the vac. line is connected to the DRIVERS SIDE of the carb. low. I went to check it this morning, I wanted to see about the "ported vav." and the full vac. I believe they already have it on the full. Because when the car is at idle, there is still vacuum being pulled through the hose. If it was "ported" there should not be any vacuum, untill the throttle is cracked open. Correct? I have pic's I took this morning. I will down load them. Thanks for the help...
Last edited by daanbc; Nov 15, 2010 at 09:32 PM.
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Ok-I'm with you now
Leave hose on carb-pull that same hose off dist. and plug-you will have vacuum at idle,especially if heads/intake are ported,less air restriction due to no roughness through ports
What degrees BTC does yours call for?
Also,does timing cover have degrees marked,-ie.4,8,12 above TDC?
If you can post pics-that would be great!
Never mind on the pics!Just saw update
Leave hose on carb-pull that same hose off dist. and plug-you will have vacuum at idle,especially if heads/intake are ported,less air restriction due to no roughness through ports
What degrees BTC does yours call for?
Also,does timing cover have degrees marked,-ie.4,8,12 above TDC?
If you can post pics-that would be great!
Never mind on the pics!Just saw update
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This is what I did this morning. I t was broken in the open position and not working. So I just took it off, and took the valve off and covered the hole. Ya think this could be causing a problem? It wasn't working to begin with though.
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Ok-I'm with you now
Leave hose on carb-pull that same hose off dist. and plug-you will have vacuum at idle,especially if heads/intake are ported,less air restriction due to no roughness through ports
What degrees BTC does yours call for?
Also,does timing cover have degrees marked,-ie.4,8,12 above TDC?
If you can post pics-that would be great!
Never mind on the pics!Just saw update
Leave hose on carb-pull that same hose off dist. and plug-you will have vacuum at idle,especially if heads/intake are ported,less air restriction due to no roughness through ports
What degrees BTC does yours call for?
Also,does timing cover have degrees marked,-ie.4,8,12 above TDC?
If you can post pics-that would be great!
Never mind on the pics!Just saw update
Last edited by daanbc; Nov 15, 2010 at 09:48 PM.
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When you look at the timing tab. 0 degrees will be the deepest notch towards engine block,as going upwards towards pass side,all outward points-towards fan will graduate as 4,8,12 BTDC.
I see the egr delete and plate,what is the top pic of?
Hold on-the mark you see isn't the one you want-the harmonic balancer-which is the wide looking pulley under timing tab is what you want,,as you turn motor,you will see a long groove cut into it from fan to block-that's the one you want.
I see the egr delete and plate,what is the top pic of?
Hold on-the mark you see isn't the one you want-the harmonic balancer-which is the wide looking pulley under timing tab is what you want,,as you turn motor,you will see a long groove cut into it from fan to block-that's the one you want.
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St. Jude Donor '12
When you look at the timing tab. 0 degrees will be the deepest notch towards engine block,as going upwards towards pass side,all outward points-towards fan will graduate as 4,8,12 BTDC.
I see the egr delete and plate,what is the top pic of?
Hold on-the mark you see isn't the one you want-the harmonic balancer-which is the wide looking pulley under timing tab is what you want,,as you turn motor,you will see a long groove cut into it from fan to block-that's the one you want.
I see the egr delete and plate,what is the top pic of?
Hold on-the mark you see isn't the one you want-the harmonic balancer-which is the wide looking pulley under timing tab is what you want,,as you turn motor,you will see a long groove cut into it from fan to block-that's the one you want.
Last edited by daanbc; Nov 15, 2010 at 10:19 PM.
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The balancer directly under the timing tab is what you want-that's where you will find the timing mark-it's deep,all the way across it
You don't want the lowest point on tab,that's after top dead center-
You want to be at second point above "0" mark,not below,that will retard the timing
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St. Jude Donor '12
Ok-the orange dot on the belt pulley is the wrong mark.
The balancer directly under the timing tab is what you want-that's where you will find the timing mark-it's deep,all the way across it
You don't want the lowest point on tab,that's after top dead center-
You want to be at second point above "0" mark,not below,that will retard the timing
The balancer directly under the timing tab is what you want-that's where you will find the timing mark-it's deep,all the way across it
You don't want the lowest point on tab,that's after top dead center-
You want to be at second point above "0" mark,not below,that will retard the timing