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Old May 18, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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OK i just failed emissions so need to rebuild carb so what is the big deal
well the throttle shaft warn in to the carb body so since its date coded
what to do thank you paul
i do know i should get a new carb but i am a ncrs extremest

all so so i don't spell or punctuate well
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Old May 18, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by docmow
OK i just failed emissions so need to rebuild carb so what is the big deal
well the throttle shaft warn in to the carb body so since its date coded
what to do thank you paul
i do know i should get a new carb but i am a ncrs extremest

all so so i don't spell or punctuate well
Have you checked with Cliff Ruggles or another rebuilder? I'm pretty sure I've seen bushing kits for worn throttle shafts. I'm not positive they were for QJets, could have been.

You could ask Lars as well. I don't know if he goes that far with his rebuilds nor does he do many rebuilds for others lately.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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Rebuilding the carb is not [necessarily] required when an emissions test is failed. Nor is it assured that rebuilding it will, in any way, improve the results. What is needed are the data on the emissions test sheet that shows the specifications for the failed test(s) and the testing conditions. For example, was the failed test performed at idle or at elevated speed? Was the failure for CO (carbon monoxide) or NO2 (nitrous oxide)? The repairs or adjustments required depend on what test was failed. Supply specific info and maybe we can help.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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The throttle shaft wear is pretty common after many miles. Air gets drawn past the shaft and it reduces fuel atomization apparently. It could be one reason it's running rich (if that was the problem). You could have new bushings installed, or, you might try a re-builder. They will rebuild your existing carb. Here are a couple names:

http://www.quadrajetcarburetors.com/...g-service.html
http://www.carbrebuilders.com/index.htm

I have not use either. It's funny you bring up this topic. I just had my carb off my car today. I was going to disassemble it and get a bunch of parts replated. But what I might do is wait and send it in for rebuilding next year. I checked throttle shaft play and fortunately it's good. My other car DOES have some play. You should see some performance improvements as well once you get it corrected. The other common problem is a warped top.

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Old May 18, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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A more common cause for emission test failure is baseline tune-up. A bad rotor and cap, a leaky spark plug wire, a couple plugs with .080 gap, maladjusted timing or a vacuum leak not related to throttle shaft wear are all more likely to cause the misfire which probably failed your car. A very wise mentor of mine told me long ago before the advent of "commonplace" fuel injection that it is impossible to correctly diagnose a carburetion problem in a car which needs any part of a basic ignition tune up. Years of sometimes chasing my own tail have taught me that he was absolutely correct. Verify the condition of your ignition, make sure your fuel and air filters are clean and that the PCV and EGR systems are functional before you tear your carb down.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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thank you, the test only failed at low idle the float is leaking at needle vavle
also every thing has been replaced like sp cap and wires that i replaced 2000. miles ago . the car had stabil in it and only drove in two years 225. miles so befor test changed sp and rotor cap drain out old gas filled with chevron and put a can of sea foam in it did run better so with float leaking and warn throttle shaft i through rebuild in order and the fact it has not been done in over 24 years
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Old May 19, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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It's been my experience this shop does very good work....my carb from them was a bolt on with minor adjustments.

http://customrebuiltcarbs.com/index.shtml
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Originally Posted by docmow
OK i just failed emissions so need to rebuild carb so what is the big deal
well the throttle shaft warn in to the carb body so since its date coded
what to do thank you paul
i do know i should get a new carb but i am a ncrs extremest

all so so i don't spell or punctuate well
if in fact you are that big an NCRS extremist, why not just replacing the carb (should that be the real cause of your emissions failure), pass the test, and then put your correct dated carb back on. you didn't say you were a tree hugger, so i would assume you would be ok with operating your car that way. i doubt you are using your car as a dd, so for the use it gets, it should work for you. of course if in addition to being an NCRS extremist, you are **** and everything needs to be just so, then i'm sure you can get your date correct carb redone by any number of shops that turn out NCRS work and maintain your authenticity.
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Why are they testing a 1976 car (35 years old) ??
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Old May 19, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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I am pretty sure you can bore out the throttle shaft and install brass bushings and i don't think they are visible once the carb is reassembled also your spelling isn't too bad but some punctuation once in awhile might make it easier for people who are reading your post to get the meaning you are trying to get across it makes me think of what it would look like if a dog learned to type also a reputable carb rebuilder who is familiar with ncrs standards will be able to rebuild your carb so it will work and look exactly like new and so it will work well and ncrs judges will not have a problem with it also make sure that you give instructions to rebuilder orally not in writing or misunderstanding may result hope this has been helpful see ya!


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Why are they testing a 1976 car (35 years old) ??
th OP lists UTAH as his location. i would think that the only way it would be tested would be if it was a dd, but who knows. every state is so very different
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