Auto, small block, pb ps,Bloomington gold. Beautiful car. Ideas on value?

 

Without pics and details of options, a BG certified red/red 72 vert in as you describe excellent condition could be a 35-38k range,maybe more if it were a 4speed.Clean original 68-72 small block verts always bring good money and are always in demand.

 

Pure speculation without pics. Bloomington Gold when?

 

Just because a car judged well at Bloomington or an NCRS event, to me, doesn't carry a lot of weight as far as car value. All judging well proves is that the car LOOKS like it did when it came from the factory. It guarantees absolutely NOTHING. A small block car (without documentation) converted to a big block that was done well, could possibly get Bloomington Gold or NCRS Top Flight, BUT it's still only a small block and it's real value is as a resto-mod not an original. My answer to your question would be, the car is worth what you are comfortable paying for it. Good luck with your purchase.

 

$10-$40K, +/- $5K

Hope that helps.

 

Hi gg,
I think and hope that you under estimate the abliity of NCRS judges, at the regional and national level, to figure out what the car is that they're looking at.
Not always..... but often.
Regards,
Alan

 

Alan- you're the last person I'd argue with on this board but I do see what garage ghost is getting at and agree with him to a certain point.

Many have used and misused NCRS judging activities to 'validate' their car for commercial reasons and in doing so have created a false aura of what the awards represent.

To believe that all judges are equally talented and experienced and therefore will ferret out all clones and restamps is incorrect and in making your statement raises that false expectation even higher. Even if a car is determined to have some serious issues, the deductions may not be sufficient to knock it out of eligibility for a Top Flight award.

Take for example the recent fuss over the misinterpreted rule regarding non-factory side pipes. Although it was clarified that such a thing would not brand the car as counterfeit, it did relegate the car to 2nd Flight (still an admirable award). The owner had driven the car 800 miles one way to the event which put the car back into a very solid Top Flight position.

The fabled 'Last '67' is know to have a non-original engine block yet easily scored a Top Flight.

It's also well know that cars are frequently stripped of their high value rare parts subsequent to a meet and replaced with lower value repro parts.

An innocent buyer when looking at judging awards may innocently fall for the commonly hyped myth and misunderstanding, and falsely believe that such an award authenticates originality, correctness, and factory perfection.

A judging certificate is certainly not bad thing, but it has only limited value when assessing a car. Who knows- it might have been me judging that day.

 

Hi Mike,
I'm not much interested in debating either.
I do believe that at the regional and national level the judges have the knowledge and experience to figure out what they're looking at.
I believe a car was sent home from the NCRS Regional in Wildwood last week.
I also believe people need to understand an organization's published stands on restoration and counterfeiting; and the differences.
DONE!
Regards,
Alan

 

Agreed, but far too often, especially on this forum, people use the excuse of trying to minimize the value of Bloomington or flight judging in order to justify the lazy perspective of, "it's worth what you are comfortable paying."

No it isn't. A car reasonably considered to be original has a very clear price range in the market at pretty much all times. Pretending its worth significantly more or less is being disingenuous. It's also not right to lead newbies down that path.

A wrong paint '81 with a crate engine isn't worth $20k because you think it's a good idea. Conversely, a car documented as Bloomington Gold a couple years ago that hasnt been significantly messed with and is checked out isnt suddenly worthless becasue you don't believe in judging.

Incidentally to the OP, the car is worth a bit more if you don't call it a "vert."

 

Hi vb,
If I hadn't written "DONE" in my last post, I'd agree.
Regards,
Alan

 

 

Absolutely! I wish there was a way to spread that thought more widely.

Mike

 

Thank you jr9170! Everyone else got into a p!ssing match into some organizations that are important to us all

I was just after a rough estimate to see if my opinion was on track.

 

I agree with you on the ability of the NCRS judges. Like you said "Not always...but often" and I used the term "could possibly ".