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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Do you have the stock intake (a lot is there like EGR), carb & exhaust manifolds (part of EFE)? Much would be same for L-82 & L-48, for example the carb L-82 just has richer 77 jets than L-48 76 jets.
Yes, I still have the stock intake manifold and an aftermarket intake manifold with the EGR and the EFE, what I believe I'm missing is an air vacuum canister and the vacuum system that activates the butterfly valve in the right exhaust manifold. Mostly, I’m severely lacking the knowledge of how to plumb all this crap together to make the State of California happy with me again.........

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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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By "air vacuum canister" if you mean the fuel evap. system ECS look for the canister under the washer tank under driver side fender.
EFE actuator on exhaust manifold probably to TVS in thermostat housing. You could post pics. So you have the stock carb?
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ganey
By "air vacuum canister" if you mean the fuel evap. system ECS look for the canister under the washer tank under driver side fender.
EFE actuator on exhaust manifold probably to TVS in thermostat housing. You could post pics. So you have the stock carb?
Cool, I will look for the can tonight and yes I am still sporting the stock carb.
I'll try to get some pictures posted tonight or tomorrow a.m. Thank you.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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I did find the fuel Evap under and behind the washer tank (Thanks Ganey) I've been from one end of the car to the other and never saw it there. I got my devices a tad bit mixed up, it appears the EFE is missing and I'm still lacking a diagram for the plumbing but I am getting closer.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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I suspect you will find your car came equipped with ;

EGR: which you're capable of installing on one of your present manifolds

EFE: I had to hunt this down as well for my l82 equipped 78 - the parts are available if not a bit pricey (for what you get)

CAT: all 77's had catalytic convertors - get a good hi flow modern one

Evap: this is the cannister you mentioned in a previous post - no harm in having one

PCV: your engine shots indicate you already have this

Thermac: thermostaticly controlled air cleaner, this the single snorkle factory air cleaner with the vacuum controlled door and hot air connection to the drivers side manifold. a flexible metal tube connects the air cleaner with the exhaust manifold, you can even see the place where it connects to on the manifold in one of your photos.

there may be 77 specific equipment not mentioned here but in all likelyhood those above would get you past the visual inspection.

An assembly instruction manual (AIM) will have hose routing digrams on how to connect it all up - its a worthwhile book to have in any case.

good luck
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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....must be tough to enjoy this hobby in the Republic of Kalifornication...
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Borowski
....must be tough to enjoy this hobby in the Republic of Kalifornication...
Any hobby here is tough and expensive to enjoy, one gets taxed or ticketed for just about anything we do.
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Originally Posted by Paul Borowski
....must be tough to enjoy this hobby in the Republic of Kalifornication...
Nope, not in the least bit.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fauxrs
I suspect you will find your car came equipped with ;

EGR: which you're capable of installing on one of your present manifolds

EFE: I had to hunt this down as well for my l82 equipped 78 - the parts are available if not a bit pricey (for what you get)

CAT: all 77's had catalytic convertors - get a good hi flow modern one

Evap: this is the cannister you mentioned in a previous post - no harm in having one

PCV: your engine shots indicate you already have this

Thermac: thermostaticly controlled air cleaner, this the single snorkle factory air cleaner with the vacuum controlled door and hot air connection to the drivers side manifold. a flexible metal tube connects the air cleaner with the exhaust manifold, you can even see the place where it connects to on the manifold in one of your photos.

there may be 77 specific equipment not mentioned here but in all likelyhood those above would get you past the visual inspection.

An assembly instruction manual (AIM) will have hose routing digrams on how to connect it all up - its a worthwhile book to have in any case.

good luck
Thank you for the info.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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there is also a heat risor valve from the exhaust manifold to the exhaust..
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Been down this road before with CA DMV. As a result, all my "hobby" cars are always 1975 and older. No need to smog. No need to add unneeded smog equipment with questionable purpose and reliability. Smog is a big reason why 1976 and newer C3 Corvettes are less expensive.
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Originally Posted by Clubby99
Been down this road before with CA DMV. As a result, all my "hobby" cars are always 1975 and older. No need to smog. No need to add unneeded smog equipment with questionable purpose and reliability. Smog is a big reason why 1976 and newer C3 Corvettes are less expensive.
If I would have known then what I know now... I Would have never bought my 77... would have been a 75 or older......
Ill have to deal with this at some point.. for now im registered in a non smog Co... And looking to buy property in a non smog co as well..
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fauxrs
I suspect you will find your car came equipped with ;

EGR: which you're capable of installing on one of your present manifolds

EFE: I had to hunt this down as well for my l82 equipped 78 - the parts are available if not a bit pricey (for what you get)

CAT: all 77's had catalytic convertors - get a good hi flow modern one

Evap: this is the cannister you mentioned in a previous post - no harm in having one

PCV: your engine shots indicate you already have this

Thermac: thermostaticly controlled air cleaner, this the single snorkle factory air cleaner with the vacuum controlled door and hot air connection to the drivers side manifold. a flexible metal tube connects the air cleaner with the exhaust manifold, you can even see the place where it connects to on the manifold in one of your photos.

there may be 77 specific equipment not mentioned here but in all likelyhood those above would get you past the visual inspection.

An assembly instruction manual (AIM) will have hose routing digrams on how to connect it all up - its a worthwhile book to have in any case.

good luck
By chance could you recall where you purchased your EFE from? I found a new one back East for a buck forty , or was that what you considered to be a bit pricey for what you get? If so, yes I confirm.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tod M Elliott
By chance could you recall where you purchased your EFE from? I found a new one back East for a buck forty , or was that what you considered to be a bit pricey for what you get? If so, yes I confirm.
The bracket was the most expensive item and yeah it was something like what you quote, and yeah for that piece of stamped metal its a silly piece of change you have to spend.

I think I actually got mine off E-bay.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Go to your local state ref not the local smog shop.
As said they may be more lenient.


had a K5 blazer yrs ago that had a BBC swapped in place of the 350 decent size cam etc etc.
All he asked me to do was get some universal smog rails, pump kit and I was good. No mention of EGR cat etc. Never even sniffed it they just want to see the stuff on there.

Fwiw ran the same with the stuff on.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Looking at the old engine last night, I finally located the engine stamp. The stamp indicates CLA telling me the car was produced with non-California emissions and an automatic transmission, so my emission system is minimal and I’m not that far from achieving a passing emissions test. So if nothing else with all the research I’ve done, along with the help from the members of this forum I’ve gained a considerable amount of knowledge on my car.

Thanks again guys!

I’ll let you know when I get the cert.
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Originally Posted by Tod M Elliott
I’ll let you know when I get the cert.
Sorry to dig up this old thread. I’m in the exact same position with my ‘77 vette.

Please let me know if you were able to get your non CA car to pass smog in California. Did you have to add AIR smog pump and all?

Thanks for any feedback/update!!
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Seriously, Don't bring up a 14 year old thread. Just don't. The guy your asking hasn't even been on the forum in 8 years!
Please start a new thread and ask your questions .
Other than that, Welcome to the forum. I'm certain if you start a new thread and ask your questions properly you'll get helpful answers.
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I bought a 70 for that reason besides the fact I like the chrome bumpers. The cal smog people can bite me
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