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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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Good morning: I am in the middle of a frame off restoration on my 68. I would like recommendations on which insulation under new carpet people like. Heat is my main consideration, 427, 390HP. I have had good luck with the tunnel insulation under the car but the rest of the under-body insulation, it seems to come off. Thanks in advance for any help. Doug
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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Reflectix is popular. Very similar to the stock stuff. Easy to work with.

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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Do a search as lots of guys have used various products including Lizard Skin or its homemade knockoff and closed cell aluminum backed foam. Let us know what you went with and your results.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Reflectix is popular. Very similar to the stock stuff. Easy to work with.

This is what I used,
Easy to use and you can get it at your local home depot.
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This is a future project for me as well. After doing some research it looks like the "popular" way to go is Dynamat or Fatmat first, then Reflectix on top of that. Reflectix will keep the heat out but will fo nothing for the sound. Vice versa for the Dynamat. I will probably go with Fatmat since its cheaper.

After these 2 layers, would you still need the regular carpet underlayment or can you put down the carpet directly on the Reflectix?
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For the heat insulation use the Reflectix sheet below your carpet, its cheap and it works very well, DON'T buy the expensive stuff, you don't need it, I live in a place that has 110*F summers and I know what I'm talking about!

For the ultimate heat insulation, stick some zero-clearance sheets under your car body (above the tranny and on the lower firewall), I did that to my car and its so cool that I rarely need A/C to cool the cockpit down, except in the mid. summer days of course.

All the other stuff, like the dynamat and hushmate .. etc are really a sound deadening materials, and they very little in preventing heat transfer to the cabin, they do a very good job in preventing noise though.

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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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I used RAAMmat from RAAMaudio for sound. Worked well and was less costly than the others I considered. If I remember correctly, Rick is a vette guy.

http://www.raamaudio.com/

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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HamadUP
For the heat insulation use the Reflectix sheet below your carpet, its cheap and it works very well, DON'T buy the expensive stuff, you don't need it, I live in a place that has 110*F summers and I know what I'm talking about!

For the ultimate heat insulation, stick some zero-clearance sheets under your car body (above the tranny and on the lower firewall), I did that to my car and its so cool that I rarely need A/C to cool the cockpit down, except in the mid. summer days of course.

All the other stuff, like the dynamat and hushmate .. etc are really a sound deadening materials, and they very little in preventing heat transfer to the cabin, they do a very good job in preventing noise though.
This is the first time I am hearing about zero-clearance sheets. Any specific brand/type that you used? How did you attach it to the underbody?

Does anyone have any real life comparisons between zero-clearance and products like lizardskin?
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This is the kind of stuff I used :
http://www.randallraceparts.com/otherinsulation.html

A single 42"X48" sheet was enough to do the underside of the cabin.
You can see where I put it in this pic :

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Thanks for the input. My plan is to use the Reflectix for heat and fatmat for sound. Is is correct to put the fatmat in first and then Reflectix. Again, thank you for the help, I will post some pics of my project in time. Doug
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Originally Posted by HamadUP
This is the kind of stuff I used :
http://www.randallraceparts.com/otherinsulation.html

A single 42"X48" sheet was enough to do the underside of the cabin.
You can see where I put it in this pic :

What adhesive did you use to attach it?

Thanks
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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The '68/69 C3's has an additional insulation/heat-shield setup that installed on the underside of the footwells for the passenger compartment. If you are doing an 'original' rebuild of the car, you will want to install those; and they will help a lot to reduce heat from the exhaust system.

Reflectix is a good low-cost heat insulation option for your interior. If I were doing a complete refurbish of the car, however, I would use something more permanent. But, make sure it is a heat insulation material and not just a soundproofing/noise reduction product.

You only need such insulation in the forward part of the vehicle--inside of the firewall to (and including) the bulkhead behind the seats. You do not need heat insulation in the storage area. You must cover ALL of the transmission tunnel; that is a primary source for lots of heat.
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I did second skin all over the cabin. It is supposed to deaden the sound and reduce heat transfer. I then put Reflectix (or whatever brand Menard's sells) on the forward part of the cabin including the tunnel. That stuff is cheap, thin and easy to work so I didn't see any reason not to add it.

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Originally Posted by Dportmann
Good morning: I am in the middle of a frame off restoration on my 68. I would like recommendations on which insulation under new carpet people like. Heat is my main consideration, 427, 390HP. I have had good luck with the tunnel insulation under the car but the rest of the under-body insulation, it seems to come off. Thanks in advance for any help. Doug
HI Doug, I would recommend a composite material like Koolmat Insulation for the floors, firewall and tunnel areas to stop heat from entering the interior areas. This material has the silicone (top gray side) squeezed into the weave of the glass (white side which faces heat) and cooked (or cured) to 1000°F. I could not down-load the picture of the 68 but could the 63...Sorry. The 68-82 front kit has 7 pieces and 29.5 square feet of Koolmat. You use your own glues or some we suggest we supply the silicone to finish off the cracks created when kit is installed. If you need more info email sales@koolmat.com.
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Originally Posted by rafalc
What adhesive did you use to attach it?

Thanks
It already has a very strong adhesive back to it.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HamadUP
It already has a very strong adhesive back to it.
Oh Sorry I must have misunderstood...Sorry..
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I was wondering, why Dynamat eXtreme or other butyl or bitumen stuff where there si virtually no resonance in early C3 Vettes, there is no metal. This is what these plates are for. Many guys are suggesting using Dynamat eXtreme and Reflectix.Does it work? Has anyone tried just some foam or some other deadening/heat insulating materials?
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Originally Posted by HamadUP
This is the kind of stuff I used :
http://www.randallraceparts.com/otherinsulation.html

A single 42"X48" sheet was enough to do the underside of the cabin.
You can see where I put it in this pic :

This is the same stuff I used on mine and am very happy with it, so much so that I'm going to pull the reflectics type stuff from under the carpet and put this down instead. It's not a particularly cheap heat/sound barrier but it's also not the most expensive. The most important part is that it works
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I saw some stuff called HushMat advertised on one of the Velocity car shows on tv. Supposed to insulate heat as well as quiet down the interior. Looked like pretty good stuff.
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