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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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I can drive my car for miles and the radiator does not build any pressure?? Temp gauge is fine but I can get home and squeeze the top rad hose with no problem. Does that mean I have a bad rad. cap?
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Possibly. Could also be a small leak in the system somewhere. You need a pressure tester to test the cap and pressurize the cooling system and see if it holds.

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If the cap is old, just swap it out. It should build pressure if you aren't seeing any coolant leaks.
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If the cap is old, just swap it out. It should build pressure if you aren't seeing any coolant leaks.
Ok, I've driven it the last two days with no leaks so probably a bad cap. Hopefully....
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I'm not sure you have a problem. Thermostat appears to be working. You have no coolant leaks. Sounds to me as if the coolant recovery system is working.

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Originally Posted by alconk
Ok, I've driven it the last two days with no leaks so probably a bad cap. Hopefully....
It doesn't take much of a leak to prevent it from building pressure, and if the leak is high in the system you won't necessarily even see anti freeze dripping.

On a system using a coolant recovery tank connected to the overflow line (not a pressurized reserve tank) when you remove the rad cap it should always be full to overflowing (provided there's fluid in the recovery tank). If there is any air space in the top of the rad that's indicating that the recovery system is not working. Still doesn't tell you if it's cap or leak, but tells you something is wrong.

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It doesn't take much of a leak to prevent it from building pressure, and if the leak is high in the system you won't necessarily even see anti freeze dripping.

On a system using a coolant recovery tank connected to the overflow line (not a pressurized reserve tank) when you remove the rad cap it should always be full to overflowing (provided there's fluid in the recovery tank). If there is any air space in the top of the rad that's indicating that the recovery system is not working. Still doesn't tell you if it's cap or leak, but tells you something is wrong.

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there's nothing in the recovery tank. I checked it last night, i was gonna add some but there is a little brown crap in there so i was gonna remove and clean it first.
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sounds like you have a leak. On a completely cold engine remove radiator cap and completely fill. Add coolant to tank up to cold line. Start looking for the leak. If you had a bad cap it would either leak out the cap or overflow the coolant tank.
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sounds like you have a leak. On a completely cold engine remove radiator cap and completely fill. Add coolant to tank up to cold line. Start looking for the leak. If you had a bad cap it would either leak out the cap or overflow the coolant tank.

Why would it overflow the coolant tank?

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I know my overflow cap is cracked and will not tighten if that makes a difference??
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Why would it overflow the coolant tank?

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On a cap with a coolant tank either the outter rubber ring will fail causing a leak at the cap or if the cap no longer holds pressure do to a failed spring or a bad inner rubber ring the fluid will expand in the radiator go to the coolant tank and eventually cause it to overllow.
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Originally Posted by alconk
there's nothing in the recovery tank. I checked it last night, i was gonna add some but there is a little brown crap in there so i was gonna remove and clean it first.
was there something in the tank when you started, if so
you have a leak somwhere.have you checked your oil for water.
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Actually when I bought it it didn't have any heat, the heater valve was corroded shut. But when replacing it I looked in the reservoir and it was like it is now, just traced of brown sludge. I'm gonna replace the reservoir, cap and rad. cap and see what happens. Oil looks and smells fine. I think this car might have sat awhile, not for sure though.
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Originally Posted by MelWff
On a cap with a coolant tank either the outter rubber ring will fail causing a leak at the cap or if the cap no longer holds pressure do to a failed spring or a bad inner rubber ring the fluid will expand in the radiator go to the coolant tank and eventually cause it to overllow.
The fluid will only expand into the overflow tank once. After it's expanded and pushed the a/f into the tank in an amount equal to the amount of expansion, it will cool and contract. If the system is working properly, it pulls the a/f back into the rad. If the cap is faulty or leaking it will pull air back. When it contracts there will now be an airspace at the top of the rad/filler neck. When the coolant expands again it will only push the air into the overflow. And it's just air moving back and forth. You can not empty the rad into the overflow tank.

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So in car with a bad radiator cap that is not holding pressure and is overheating you cannt empty the radiator into the overflow tank to the point where the tank overflows?
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No. Unless it overheats and starts puking fluid/steam all over the place.
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I did state overheating!
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MelWff
I did state overheating!

Not when you first mentioned a bad cap.

"On a cap with a coolant tank either the outter rubber ring will fail causing a leak at the cap or if the cap no longer holds pressure do to a failed spring or a bad inner rubber ring the fluid will expand in the radiator go to the coolant tank and eventually cause it to overllow. "

Where I have seen someone overflow the tank is when they opened the rad and found the level low so they topped it up, not considering that there was still af in the overflow. Checked it again, rad low again, level up in the tank. Add more to the rad. Keep doing that until you overflow the tank. What it is doing is pushing the amount you keep addint to the rad into the tank.

If there is sufficient fluid in the tank to cover the pickup hose and you remove the rad cap and find an airspace, you have a problem. Fluid is expanding into the tank when it warms, but when it cools and contracts it's pulling air somewhere. Can be from the upper seal in the cap, but more often it's a small leak.

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Originally Posted by alconk
I can drive my car for miles and the radiator does not build any pressure?? Temp gauge is fine but I can get home and squeeze the top rad hose with no problem. Does that mean I have a bad rad. cap?
Replaced the rad cap today and that fixed my problem
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