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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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I remember reading some where that the wiring in cars was not meant to last for a long time. This seem to be true now that I started to do a restoration on my 75. The wires are very brittle especially by anything that gets hot which is the whole engine bay. I think it would be wise to replace them for fear of a fire. Has anybody else found their wires to be in kind of shape and what is the path that you took?

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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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My car is 32 years old and I have no intention of reusing any of the original wiring. Not so much for fear of a fire, but once the car is back together I won't have to worry about broken wires or weak connections after I replace everything with new. My only concern will be - did I hook it all back up to the right places.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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Hi h,
I feel that the engine harness is the one that has the roughest life of the 4, because of the heat and the gas/oil atmosphere.
I replaced it in my 71, but for the others I just inspected, cleaned, and re-wrapped them.
You may find that you'll be able to reuse the others after looking at them carefully.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Most of mine on my 71 looks good Execpt some of it under the hood.Soon to be replaced.Luckily no hackers had been into my dash harness.It's in serviceable condition.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Like Alan has said, engine harness will be the worse. Be sure to check all your harnesses carefully for any problems. If the others are OK, it would be fine to reuse. Or go new everywhere and then you know for sure. It would all come down to your budget, but reusing some of the wiring, would be a good place to save a few bucks.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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I found some hack jobs on mine under hood and under dash. For that reason, I am replacing everything (69 resto). The other thing is that I had the entire interior out so I felt it would be an opportune time to replace because of ease of access as well as getting rid of 40+ year old wiring.

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If the original harness hasn't been "modified", the insulation isn't cracked/hardened, and/or the joints at connectors aren't frayed or badly corroded, there should be no need to replace a C3 harness. Otherwise, have at it. {Not a job I would want to do, if I didn't have to....}
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If the original harness hasn't been "modified", the insulation isn't cracked/hardened, and/or the joints at connectors aren't frayed or badly corroded, there should be no need to replace a C3 harness. Otherwise, have at it. {Not a job I would want to do, if I didn't have to....}
I just took the starter wires off and boy they are really brittle and dry. I think, in fact I know what the plan is going to be. I don't think it will be all that bad to replace since the body is coming off.

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I just picked up an '81 about a month ago. The first thing I noticed was the deteriorated rubber bushings under the car. The second thing was the condition of the wiring. Poor at best. I'm not going to do any total restoration any time soon but if this baby burns you will all know why.
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All C3's (and most other cars, too) that have any miles on them also have hardened/brittle/cracked wires at the starter. That area sees a lot of heat/oil/vibration. In fact, in less than 5 years, that new wiring harness will be in exactly the same condition in that area.

The wires in that area really need to be 'high-heat' capable wires with heat shielding on them. You could make that 'fix' on the wiring you presently have....or you can wait a bit before you make that change on the new harness.
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Just out of curiosity, how much would it cost to replace the wires in the car?
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Originally Posted by hicswa
I just took the starter wires off and boy they are really brittle and dry. I think, in fact I know what the plan is going to be. I don't think it will be all that bad to replace since the body is coming off.

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Any of the ones under the hood are not bad to replace. If you have to do the dash harness with the fuse box, find someone small and agile (and under 40).
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Originally Posted by ~Stingray
Just out of curiosity, how much would it cost to replace the wires in the car?
For my '73, 350, Auto, AC, I can get the 4 main harnesses for around $1K...

http://www.zip-corvette.com/ProductD...GR-SR&CTitle=&

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Originally Posted by ~Stingray
Just out of curiosity, how much would it cost to replace the wires in the car?
Dash harness alone on a '71 run about $400
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Splicing in new wiring (including fuse-links) in the area of the starter....less than $50....{if you do it right}; $10 if you are "Bubba II".
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Thanks for the responses.


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Good luck with it.
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I have a 78 and after reading this I gave an inspection of the wires. They are actually in good shape. I have only been able to see in the engine compartment. It is my belief that all the wiring is original too, seeing everything on my car is original. It will be interesting to see the condition of the behind the dash wiring.

What I have noticed about the car is the condition of hoses. Most of my smaller diameter hoses are in fair condition and should receive attention. Again, I would venture to say that these are the original hoses too. I guess not bad for 34 years old. I live in the Northeast so the car experiences wicked cold in the winter and the hot & humid during the summer. Anybody else experience this? (especially in the NE)
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