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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 02:08 PM
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How common is it for the keyed lock and its rubber boot/cover to remain on these cars. I'm curious how many still have the lock and its rubber cover and whose have bounced down some mysterious road into oblivion?

And how many still have the orginal spare (dangerous though it may be) under your car? Who has removed it for looks. or replaced it for reliability with a newer tire?
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 02:20 PM
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My 69 and 72 both have the original spare and the lock and boot. I have never had a problem with them coming loose.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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Still got my lock with rubber boot but its in the wife's kitchen cabnet for safe keeping. I was afraid it would fall off like you said. Hmmm! Now that you mentioned it, I haven't seen it for a while........ You don't think she might have.........? I better go check tonight.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Not all model years got the lock. Later cars do not have them.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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I still have the original carrier and spare tire from my '80. The carrier had a couple of holes worn through from the spare tire sliding around slightly over the years. These I repaired. The '80 I purchased brand new back in the day didn't have a lock on the carrier bolt. I'm not sure if it was supposed to.

I put a lock on my restored car. I don't think it was necessary. I'm positive a potential thief would have bigger things in mind than just stealing a spare tire from a classic Corvette. With that said, a C3 doesn't look complete without that spare tire carrier installed under the fuel tank.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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79 was the last year that came with a lock. I think that Chevrolet figured out that no one was likely to steal the "temporary" spare, that came in 78-82 cars.

I've never heard of anyone loosing a spare lock, while driving. Usually they disappear because someone took it off, and didn't bother to put it back (especially repair shops).

A bigger problem with the locks, is not being able to remove them. They either end up rusted up inside, or the owner doesn't have the key. It seems that a lot of these cars get sold, and the spare tire lock key, doesn't go with the car. I don't know if this is because people loose the glove box key (which also works the lock), change keys and forget to change the spare lock, or some other strange reason.

An awful lot of 68-82 Corvettes, still have their original spare. This is easy to understand with the 78-82's, since they have the temporary spare, which isn't likely to get removed and used. I think many of the 68-77 cars, still have the OEM spare, because so many of these cars got wider tires put on them over the years, leaving the spare as a mismatch. Also, the fact that it was under the car, made it a pain in the a$$ to remove, which may have dissuaded people from using it for tire rotations, etc.
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Hi,
I too still have the original lock and rubber boot.
I agree that the locks seem to have wanted to stay on rather than fall off as the years went by.
The spare is worn but is one of the original 5 tires that left St.Louis with this car.
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 02:22 PM
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Wow... Thanks guys. Interesting to see what has survived out there. I have the lock, the boot, the original spare, a cover in need of fiberglass repair, and intend to leave them all as is under the car (after the repair of course). Pretty cool. Now if I can just get under there and pull a tank sticker... (Wishful thinking I know) Fun.
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Originally Posted by Stroh
Now if I can just get under there and pull a tank sticker...
If you get under there and find something, DO NOT pull on it. It's a forty year old piece of paper and apt to be fragile. Work will diligence and be gentle.

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Originally Posted by 69FASTFUN
My 69 and 72 both have the original spare and the lock and boot. I have never had a problem with them coming loose.
LOL, I'm your echo
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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Thanks Easy Mike... Again valuable insight and helpful commentary. Much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
If you get under there and find something, DO NOT pull on it. It's a forty year old piece of paper and apt to be fragile. Work will diligence and be gentle.

I realize this is a hijack, but how common is it to find the build sheet? Is it the rule or the exception? The reason I ask is no evidence of build sheets were found on either of my cars.
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Originally Posted by David Mc
I realize this is a hijack, but how common is it to find the build sheet? Is it the rule or the exception? The reason I ask is no evidence of build sheets were found on either of my cars.
20 years ago, we rarely found cars with their build sheet intact. Somehow, today almost every 435 car seems to come with it's "original" build sheet, in nearly perfect condition.
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My 78 has the original spare, tire, lock and rubber cover....and I dont have the key..

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My '74 has the original spare, lock and cover.

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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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You guys are lucky. My 78 does not have any spare tire or tire carrier or boot or lock. Is it normal for these to be missing? I think I will keep an eye out for these things along the side of the road based on the comments.

Is there a bolt hole built into it that I can carry an exposed spare tire?
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Originally Posted by CherokeeWarrior
You guys are lucky. My 78 does not have any spare tire or tire carrier or boot or lock. Is it normal for these to be missing? I think I will keep an eye out for these things along the side of the road based on the comments.

Is there a bolt hole built into it that I can carry an exposed spare tire?
Your 78 left St. Louis with a spare tire carrier, spare tire and a spare tire lock. A previous owner has removed the spare and it's hardware.

When installed, the spare tire is not "exposed". The tire goes in a tub, that hangs under the rear of the car.

The spare tire carrier is made up of a lid, that's bolted to the frame, and the tub, which hangs from the frame by 3 bolts. At the front of the tub, there are 2 bolts, that are threaded into the differential crossmember, and then a third lock bolt is bolted to the center of the frame's rear crossmember.

To remove the spare, you loosen the lock bolt, move it asside, and the rear of the tub drops down to access the spare. The front of the tub hinges on the 2 front bolts.

All of the holes needed to mount the spare tire carrier, are in your frame already.
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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What is the spare tire size? I assume it is not the full size tire. I see the tub and hardware is about $350 at Willcox and corvette parts world but no one has the tire and I need to get a spare tire under the car.
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I assume it is not the full size tire.
I'm not sure if your '78 is any different but my '67 and '72 both have their original full size spares. I've heard modern radial tires can be a problem in the carrier.
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Thanks guys
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