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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 10:43 AM
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Just got a new C3 - 1975 Vert - and the door jam says tire pressure is 20 PSI. Tire are Goodyears 255/60/15 (not that the brand of tire impacts what pressure to run).

What does the crew here recommend - stick with GM's 39 year-old guideline??

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I run 30-32 on modern tires. mike...
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The tire's sidewall recommendation.
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Originally Posted by VETFEVER
Just got a new C3 - 1975 Vert - and the door jam says tire pressure is 20 PSI. Tire are Goodyears 255/60/15 (not that the brand of tire impacts what pressure to run).

What does the crew here recommend - stick with GM's 39 year-old guideline??

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Back in them daze, they talking about the old crappy bias ply tires, not to do that, I typically run 38 today....and the previous 30-32 recommendation is well within range.....he right.....

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Originally Posted by tokim
The tire's sidewall recommendation.
Tire sidewall is just the manufactures' MAXIMUM pressue - that's not what you should run your tires at.

I have a C6 and GM say 30 PSI and that's teh correct pressure to run at. 38 PSI wouold strike me as very high and might be giving a punishing ride.

Just was surprised to see that pressures in the 70's were 20 PSI, and today it's at 30 PSI.

Anyways....FYI
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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by VETFEVER
Tire sidewall is just the manufactures' MAXIMUM pressue - that's not what you should run your tires at.

I have a C6 and GM say 30 PSI and that's teh correct pressure to run at. 38 PSI wouold strike me as very high and might be giving a punishing ride.

Just was surprised to see that pressures in the 70's were 20 PSI, and today it's at 30 PSI.

Anyways....FYI
As stated use tire sidewall recommendation, where it clearly states also what the maximum tire pressure is. That is not to say, max out the tire pressure, just to use as a guideline.

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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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As stated use tire sidewall recommendation, where it clearly states also what the maximum tire pressure is. That is not to say, max out the tire pressure, just to use as a guideline.
No tire sidewall gives a recommended operating pressure- only a 'do not exceed' number.

I run 32 psi in mine.
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During the first couple of years radials were installed on Detroit cars, car companies thought they should be at much lower pressures because of the MUCH larger 'footprint' of the radial tires. Well, very shortly there were LOTS of radial tire failures because they would flex too much, build heat, and have blowouts at highway speed.

By the late 70's those tire pressure charts had all been changed to show 25 psi MINIMUMS. Set your tires at 30 psi. And, if the ride seems 'spongy' in the turns, bump it up a couple of pounds.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
No tire sidewall gives a recommended operating pressure- only a 'do not exceed' number.

I run 32 psi in mine.
The tire manufactures take some liberty in the belief that the consumer will adjust tire pressures depending on loads, hot, or cold, etc, from the maximum stated pressure.
My BFG radial T/A's actually state (35 max psi)..didn't notice a "do not exceed" number..hmm.
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Originally Posted by tokim
The tire manufactures take some liberty in the belief that the consumer will adjust tire pressures depending on loads, hot, or cold, etc, from the maximum stated pressure.
My BFG radial T/A's actually state (35 max psi)..didn't notice a "do not exceed" number..hmm.
How does a 'maximum' number NOT equate to 'do not exceed'?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
How does a 'maximum' number NOT equate to 'do not exceed'?
It was a sarcastic response (loses it's impact, if I have to spell it out though).
Common sense comes into play here, maximum tire pressure is a known..make adjustments accordingly.
Oh, and I'm done now.
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I run 32 in mine.

I would never run under 30 psi in a tire. remember the Ford Explorer tire fiasco a few years ago? Explorers recommended tire pressure from the factory was something like 26psi.
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Originally Posted by tokim
As stated use tire sidewall recommendation, where it clearly states also what the maximum tire pressure is. That is not to say, max out the tire pressure, just to use as a guideline.
Can you post a photo of your tire's sidewall? I know there will be a maximum pressure but I'd also like to see the recommended tire pressure.
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Originally Posted by VETFEVER
Just got a new C3 - 1975 Vert - and the door jam says tire pressure is 20 PSI. Tire are Goodyears 255/60/15 (not that the brand of tire impacts what pressure to run).

What does the crew here recommend - stick with GM's 39 year-old guideline??

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Lots of tires say different things on them on my 1937 Dodge PU the tires say max load 2140 at 20 PSI I took this as a starting point and I now run 18 PSI in the tires. Its a better ride at 18 then 20.

The # in your door jam I'm guessing is for the Original Tire, I would consult with the store that you purchased the tire from then adjust from that point.

Have a great day.


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Originally Posted by vairxpert
Can you post a photo of your tire's sidewall? I know there will be a maximum pressure but I'd also like to see the recommended tire pressure.
varixpert - tires aren't usually stamped with a recommended pressure because the recommended operating pressure is specific to the vehicle. All you will see is a max or not-to-exceed pressure on the tire.

The recommended pressure is specified by the vehicle manufacturer and is usually on the door jam or in the manual.

I am going to heed tokim's advice and start at 30 PSI

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Originally Posted by VETFEVER
varixpert - tires aren't usually stamped with a recommended pressure because the recommended operating pressure is specific to the vehicle. All you will see is a max or not-to-exceed pressure on the tire.

The recommended pressure is specified by the vehicle manufacturer and is usually on the door jam or in the manual.

I am going to heed tokim's advice and start at 30 PSI

Tx Crew
I know...I just wanted to see if he was claiming sarcasm again.

One of my first cars was a Corvair which required 15 psi front and 26 rear. It HAD to be at that! I remember having new tires put on and they did 32 psi all around. When I left and got up to 30 mph, I thought something in the steering let go.
Of course they didn't know because they couldn't find the decal in the door jamb. Back then it was on the glove compartment door.
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Originally Posted by VETFEVER
Just got a new C3 - 1975 Vert - and the door jam says tire pressure is 20 PSI. Tire are Goodyears 255/60/15 (not that the brand of tire impacts what pressure to run).

What does the crew here recommend - stick with GM's 39 year-old guideline??

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There is a huge difference ion Bias and radial tires.
My tire shop wants to run 34 to 36 pounds in my Komos.
Smoothest ride is at 30 pounds.

I'm sure there is an ideal pressure for maximum mileage and one for best traction. One for just you and One for a heavily loaded car.

I've been going to paint a stripe across my tire to see what the road contact was. That way I could adjust pressure accordingly.
Maybe someday I will.

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Never go by the what the door card says for tire pressure. It is completely useless unless running the exact tire model it left the factory with. Now you know! Enjoy your new ride!
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Never go by the what the door card says for tire pressure. It is completely useless unless running the exact tire model it left the factory with. Now you know! Enjoy your new ride!
Really?

Go look at a brand new car- any car. Please find us even ONE where the door card pressure matches what's written on the OEM tire.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Really?

Go look at a brand new car- any car. Please find us even ONE where the door card pressure matches what's written on the OEM tire.
Impossible task. But that is because the door card is the factory recommended pressure levels and what is on the tire is the MAXIMUM pressure that tire is rated to operated at, at MAXIMUM load.

Two completely different things. But if you are running the factory tires, the door card is relevant technically. I say technically because I've always preferred using their number as a starting point but finding for myself what pressure level works best for me and how I use it.

For instance on my Wrangler, the recommended pressure is 43psi. It rode pretty rough there. I worked my way down to 36 psi while still passing the "chalk test" and the was much ride improved.

But that was with the factory tires. I've since upgraded to larger tires by a different manufacturer and I'm running them at 33 psi. It really freaks out the oil techs when I take it in for my free oil changes at the dealer. They want to go off of what the door says.

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