C3 Trajedy
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C3 Tragedy
Unfortunate loss of life, unsettling circumstances.
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/driv...?__federated=1
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/driv...?__federated=1
Last edited by Capkunu; Oct 12, 2014 at 04:14 PM.
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yes,
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-a-member.html
I keep coming back to this. Really bums me out.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-a-member.html
I keep coming back to this. Really bums me out.
Melting Slicks
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From: Hollywood CA
I think as a public service message/lesson we should acknowledge that speed was a culprit. No car (even rusted birdcage) splits like that without a high over speed limits. Blow outs, suspension failure would involve friction / abrupt slow down on road.
Every 10mph over speed limit is like jumping off an extra flight off of a 2 story building.
Almost every catastrophic accident I have seen involves a fixed object.
They are the absolute worse as they give zero v. Even head on cars, Crumple zones, deflecting / hits & wheels rolling back
The grass (green ice/ brown ice) only sped up the outcome.
If your going to blip ur throttle do so on empty straightaways without trees, poles, sign posts and at a minimum with guardrails.
Tragic, but single car accidents and speed are fatal.
Every 10mph over speed limit is like jumping off an extra flight off of a 2 story building.
Almost every catastrophic accident I have seen involves a fixed object.
They are the absolute worse as they give zero v. Even head on cars, Crumple zones, deflecting / hits & wheels rolling back
The grass (green ice/ brown ice) only sped up the outcome.
If your going to blip ur throttle do so on empty straightaways without trees, poles, sign posts and at a minimum with guardrails.
Tragic, but single car accidents and speed are fatal.
Last edited by Kevin_NYC; Oct 12, 2014 at 09:42 PM.
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Good thing I had a bead on the miscreant in the rear view mirror, and aborted my move before he could slam me down the ravine. Just a gut instinct from having driven a million miles.
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She wouldn't have been racing with her dad behind her and they were going to deliver furniture. And, according to her dad, everyone was going at about the same speed. So, no racing and she was going the same speed as everyone else.
Sounds to me like the guy in the truck probably didn't see her, made a lane change into her, she swerved her car to the right to avoid being run over and ended up going off the embankment and into the tree.
Why do people seem to always assume that if a sports car is involved in a gnarly accident that "racing" or high speed was involved?
Sounds to me like the guy in the truck probably didn't see her, made a lane change into her, she swerved her car to the right to avoid being run over and ended up going off the embankment and into the tree.
Why do people seem to always assume that if a sports car is involved in a gnarly accident that "racing" or high speed was involved?
Last edited by VCuomo; Oct 20, 2014 at 09:30 PM.
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I doubt it. It's probably not a risky assumption to make that if high speed or racing is a factor in a bad accident then a sports car may probably be involved, but I don't think it's valid to assume that if a sports car is in a bad accident then high speed or racing is involved.
In this case people seem to have rushed to judgement (probably because a Corvette was involved); but, if the father is to be believed (and I think he should be), excessive speed and/or racing were not the cause of this tragic accident. IMO.
In this case people seem to have rushed to judgement (probably because a Corvette was involved); but, if the father is to be believed (and I think he should be), excessive speed and/or racing were not the cause of this tragic accident. IMO.
Last edited by VCuomo; Oct 20, 2014 at 10:10 PM.
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A tragedy regardless of the cause-
Based on the carnage, it appears speed was a factor.
However no one but perhaps the investigators can determine if 'racing' was actually involved.
I suspect that if the elusive white SUV was the root cause, it may have cut her off and she just lost control at speed.
After years of driving my 69' I still manage to scare the hell out of myself on occasion due to the twitchy handling at high speed when trying to perform any quick lane changes or accident avoidance maneuvers.
Based on the carnage, it appears speed was a factor.
However no one but perhaps the investigators can determine if 'racing' was actually involved.
I suspect that if the elusive white SUV was the root cause, it may have cut her off and she just lost control at speed.
After years of driving my 69' I still manage to scare the hell out of myself on occasion due to the twitchy handling at high speed when trying to perform any quick lane changes or accident avoidance maneuvers.
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Of course the father is going to say she wasn't speeding/racing.
Two reasons,
first to protect the character and good name of his daughter, (any parent would do this I think) and second, most life insurance policies don't pay out if the death was caused by racing or speed testing. Or any dangerous activity for that matter.
Two reasons,
first to protect the character and good name of his daughter, (any parent would do this I think) and second, most life insurance policies don't pay out if the death was caused by racing or speed testing. Or any dangerous activity for that matter.
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The father was behind her moving her couch. I don't know about you guys but I would not be street racing with my dad a few minutes behind me.
I too believe the SUV cut her off to make the change on the road.
I too believe the SUV cut her off to make the change on the road.
Melting Slicks
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Of course the father is going to say she wasn't speeding/racing.
Two reasons,
first to protect the character and good name of his daughter, (any parent would do this I think) and second, most life insurance policies don't pay out if the death was caused by racing or speed testing. Or any dangerous activity for that matter.
Two reasons,
first to protect the character and good name of his daughter, (any parent would do this I think) and second, most life insurance policies don't pay out if the death was caused by racing or speed testing. Or any dangerous activity for that matter.
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Of course the father is going to say she wasn't speeding/racing.
Two reasons,
first to protect the character and good name of his daughter, (any parent would do this I think) and second, most life insurance policies don't pay out if the death was caused by racing or speed testing. Or any dangerous activity for that matter.
Two reasons,
first to protect the character and good name of his daughter, (any parent would do this I think) and second, most life insurance policies don't pay out if the death was caused by racing or speed testing. Or any dangerous activity for that matter.
This story has been posted over and over Ad nauseam
but the story IS full of holes it doesn't all add up.I can see qwanks comment as not calling the man a liar as much as he is just stating reasons a person might cover up truth....it is "possible"
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1000's of people die in accidents like this every single day. The only reason it's brought up here and being discussed is because it was in a vette. Therefor, the only real thing to talk about is the vette.
Relax people.
Relax people.
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