Sealer for Firewall Insulation Retainers
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Sealer for Firewall Insulation Retainers
My 69 AIM shows some type of sealer was used on the firewall insulation retainers (rubber push pins). I'm wondering what if anything others have used in this application. Thanks, Rick
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I don't know what the factory used, so if your doing an NCRS resto, someone else will have to advise what to use.
If your just trying to seal out water, any RTV/silicone will work. Clear or black colored are pretty much off the shelf items at any auto parts store.
If your just trying to seal out water, any RTV/silicone will work. Clear or black colored are pretty much off the shelf items at any auto parts store.
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Thanks 69Monzacpe. I couldn't find evidence of anything on the ones that came out of it.
Not NCRS. Goal is just to wind up with a really well functioning car. That's what I'll do. The black silicone sounds like a good idea. Rick
Not NCRS. Goal is just to wind up with a really well functioning car. That's what I'll do. The black silicone sounds like a good idea. Rick
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Do you currently have the dash pulled?
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BTW those plugs were very difficult for me to install yesterday. I don't know if the GM workers used a special tool or not but they are hard to get in. I;m working up under the dash now and not having much fun doing it. Gotta go out and start in again.
I plan to install new wiring harnesses today. I bought new ones and they are super nice. They were expensive but when I look at the old harnesses compared to the new ones, it was definitely worth it. Rick
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If you are talking about the inside firewall insulation, and you are not looking to go NCRS, I (and I believe most) do not use the factory style firewall insulation with the push pins, I use a modern heat/sound barrier such as dynamat.
Do you currently have the dash pulled?
Do you currently have the dash pulled?
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Maybe new ones go in easier but I used my old ones since they were right here. Rick
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Hi Rick,
The plugs are also used for the carpet installation in both the front foot-wells and on the rear compartment bulkhead.
So having a tool and some lubricant will come in handy.
The original plugs have often gotten quite hard and can be difficult to reuse.
The new plugs vary in how soft they are depending on where they've come from.
Some people recommend making it a 2 person job…. one inside with the plug, lubricant, and tool, and the other person outside with a pliers to gently grab the snout of the plug and help pull it into position.
I ruin about 1 plug for every 2 I get in place.
I find both the firewall blanket and carpet plugs around the steering column, and forward of the gas pedal, to be especially difficult.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
The plugs are also used for the carpet installation in both the front foot-wells and on the rear compartment bulkhead.
So having a tool and some lubricant will come in handy.
The original plugs have often gotten quite hard and can be difficult to reuse.
The new plugs vary in how soft they are depending on where they've come from.
Some people recommend making it a 2 person job…. one inside with the plug, lubricant, and tool, and the other person outside with a pliers to gently grab the snout of the plug and help pull it into position.
I ruin about 1 plug for every 2 I get in place.
I find both the firewall blanket and carpet plugs around the steering column, and forward of the gas pedal, to be especially difficult.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; Nov 10, 2014 at 02:08 PM.
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Hi Rick,
The plugs are also used for the carpet installation in both the front foot-wells and on the rear compartment bulkhead.
So having a tool and some lubricant will come in handy.
The original plugs have often gotten quite hard and can be difficult to reuse.
The new plugs vary in how soft they are depending on where they've come from.
Some people recommend making it a 2 person job…. one inside with the plug, lubricant, and tool, and the other person outside with a pliers to gently grab the snout of the plug and help pull it into position.
I ruin about 1 plug for every 2 I get in place.
I find both the firewall blanket and carpet plugs around the steering column, and forward of the gas pedal, to be especially difficult.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
The plugs are also used for the carpet installation in both the front foot-wells and on the rear compartment bulkhead.
So having a tool and some lubricant will come in handy.
The original plugs have often gotten quite hard and can be difficult to reuse.
The new plugs vary in how soft they are depending on where they've come from.
Some people recommend making it a 2 person job…. one inside with the plug, lubricant, and tool, and the other person outside with a pliers to gently grab the snout of the plug and help pull it into position.
I ruin about 1 plug for every 2 I get in place.
I find both the firewall blanket and carpet plugs around the steering column, and forward of the gas pedal, to be especially difficult.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
I installed the steering column and the fuse panel/dash harness too. I'll be glad when this part of the project is all done!
I did use the pull method on the ones that I could. It was by far the easiest way. They pull easier than they push. Rick
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If you are talking about the inside firewall insulation, and you are not looking to go NCRS, I (and I believe most) do not use the factory style firewall insulation with the push pins, I use a modern heat/sound barrier such as dynamat.
Do you currently have the dash pulled?
Do you currently have the dash pulled?
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Everything looks real nice.
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Hi Roger. That stuff is called Reflectix. Not stock. It's like bubble pack insulation. Supposed to work good for keeping heat out of the cabin. Mice don't go for it either like they do the jute. I got it at home depot along with a can of 3M "77" spray adhesive and a roll of aluminum tape. It's very inexpensive. I did use stock insulation at the heater box and around the steering column but this will take the place of the jute carpet underlayment. My car is NOM and I'm not going NCRS but most of it is reasonably close. Rick
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Hi Roger. That stuff is called Reflectix. Not stock. It's like bubble pack insulation. Supposed to work good for keeping heat out of the cabin. Mice don't go for it either like they do the jute. I got it at home depot along with a can of 3M "77" spray adhesive and a roll of aluminum tape. It's very inexpensive. I did use stock insulation at the heater box and around the steering column but this will take the place of the jute carpet underlayment. My car is NOM and I'm not going NCRS but most of it is reasonably close. Rick
Thanks Rick